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Wow your propaganda susceptibility is really showing. Guess the american thought police did their job well. Imagine calling windows, a literal spyware masterpiece that sucks up every bit of data it can a " reasonably working and widespread OS with broad compatibility" and an open source piece of software, "a dystopian government OS with a direct uplink to the thought police". Like honestly what thoughts exactly do you think China is pilicing on western users and how are they acting on them? Meanwhile Microsoft, Samsung, Google, are all actively collecting as much data as possible and not even trying to hide it anymore, despite not being open source.
Why the fuck are there so many people in this thread trying to argue that a Chinese government sanctioned OS is a good choice?? Are you all insane?
My point merely was, and still is, that people shouldn't recommend CCP bullshit over windows out of some misguided "brand loyalty" to Linux. Yes, windows is a poor OS made by a for profit corporation, aiming to make money off their users.
Now why the fuck would anyone conclude that instead of those "only" greedy pigs, a government that doesn't even represent them and most certainly doesn't have their best interests in mind, should have a native snooping feed built into their daily driver?
Especially when there are more actually free and open linux distros to choose from than there are colors in a rainbow?
TLDR: Windows sucks, I agree, but literally recommending government spyware over it is batshit insane and entirely antithetical to the free and open ideology behind Linux. And all the people responding to me seem to conflate arguing against ccpOS with arguing for windows.
Tbf windows is both those things, "a reasonably working and widespread literal spyware masterpiece that sucks up every bit of data it can, with broad compatibility."
Not saying it's good, but it "works," it is widespread due to exclusivity contracts with the major manufacturers iirc and people's reluctance to install anything else, it is compatible with a broad range of softwares and hardwares because if someone makes something it basically has to support windows, and it is great at spying on users.
Also tbf, if I ditched windows because of spying, why would I want to install a spying linux? I don't want canonical's bullshit either, if I'm ditching spying for spying I may as well just not and then I can keep using PKhex without going through wine ffs.
Btw china has been caught operating police stations illegally on "western™" soil. So like,
Basically "that." https://www.newsweek.com/china-overseas-police-service-center-public-security-bureau-safeguard-defenders-transnational-crime-1764531