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Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:

“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Why would they do that? What would be the point of killing an (presumably) innocent man if the killer is still on the loose?

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the killer is still on the loose, the case is not closed and there is literally still a loose end.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They asked why they would kill a patsy. In theory it's just to placate the public and reduce likelihood of copycats.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But if the killer kills again, the case is not closed and it is a loose end.

It is only closed if this was a one and done.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The 'killer' died in prison, therefore and new incident must be a copycat by someone who happens to look a lot like him. That's a brand new case. /s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And the killer in this "brand new case" bizarrely looks exactly like the previous killer?

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

It's uncanny isn't it, he's such a copycat that he even copied the original shooter's face!

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's a popular look!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

No that's just a "copycat" who should be shamed for wanting to be like the "Evil" Luigi

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is America. We build whole industries (the insurance industry) around killing people for profit.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Won’t someone think of the GDP?!?

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Who cares about GDP? The company board are the real victims here! Their profits are not minmaxed enough!

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To send a message and to look like they solved the crime. They feel confident the real killer will stay hidden or has left the country.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He killed for most likely ideological reasons, just cause he got away doesnt mean he is gonna stay away. Hell with these actions id say its entirely possible he may target someone sooner.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I hope he does get a few more, to also send a message.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Part of me hopes this happens before EOY, because I think it'll really strike some fear into CEOs.

But, one can dream

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Buddy if you think the system is about "justice" I've go some news for you

[–] MrZee@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When police think they have right suspect they often do everything they can to prove that person did it. Essentially, once they have their targets set on a suspect, they shift from trying to figure out who may have done it to putting all their resources into finding evidence against the suspect and building the strongest case they can against them. This includes ignoring evidence that is counter to their theory and discontinuing investigation of other leads.

Their goal at that point is to convict. Because, to them, getting a conviction is success and the person going free is failure. Alternately, getting the person to “commit suicide” is success because they can claim that they were guilty and no trial is necessary.

It’s all about winning and getting a conviction because conviction=justice=case closed. And that means the public can rest soundly knowing “justice” has been served. Especially after PR has done their work.

Prosecutors are the same. They treat their job as finding anything and everything to get the conviction. Exculpatory evidence is ignored and buried. If “evidence” is planted/manufactured, they do their best to ignore and hide that fact and make said evidence look real. It’s the defense's job to prove innocence. In theory, the police should be working to find and provide evidence for both sides, but the police and Prosecutors anre working toward the same goal, leaving the defense severely hindered.

This is the system that railroads people into conviction. They use the media to amplify their story and make it look like they are infallible. When information comes out that counters the police/prosecutor story, they circle the wagons to protect each other and discredit the information that contradicts them. Because they think that they are the good guys and even if they got something wrong, their original hunch must have been right.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy understands what Phoenix Wright is REALLY about.

[–] MrZee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Simple, they want the public to believe that if they follow in the killers footsteps, they will be caught and go through hell in order to dissuade other people who might do the same. There are obviously a lot of people who applaud his actions, so to try to prevent them from getting the idea that they can do this too, they make a show of force to make them think twice.

In the end it doesn't matter if Luigi did it or not. As long as people are scared of the pinishment, they will hesitate to imitate.

Not true justice, but they never really cared about that to begin with.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The wealthy elite want an illusion of consequences for attacking them more than they need actual justice. They didn't want the plebs thinking they can get away with attacking them, or else more will happen.