No one rioted for Epstein because no one liked Epstein. If they suicide this guy, there's going to be a much, much bigger LA Riot situation happening.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes but riots are good for the elite. The media will blame the rioters, and most voters will agree or not care. Look at what happened to BLM. Do you think that helped the cause?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not so sure about that.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think the issue with riots is the ability of the rioters to control the narrative. For instance, Trump was able to eventually control the narrative around Jan 6, through Fox News and non-traditional media, and so this riot did not end up hurting him. But the left does not have such an ecosystem, and so riots/protests are always interpreted for the left, instead of by the left.

I think this challenge is difficult to overcome, and in any case I am absolutely sure that the people in charge (especially when Trump takes power), believe in their ability to shape the narrative. they will be much happier with riots than with a calm trial in which the jury acquits.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We had a series of riots in France the elite were not super stoked about.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but in France the elite does not control the narrative the way it does in the US. BLM were mostly peaceful protestors against police violence. Yet, a Fox News viewer only saw the few violent excesses.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would they suicide him? Epstein could name names. What’s this guy gonna do?

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Let’s assume a jury trial does happen. The murder is pre-meditated so the DOJ will have to demand capital punishment. Now consider the case where the jury does not convict. What happens to the lives of CEOs (I.e. the members of the Trump cabinet)? That’s a crazy risk to take.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

will have to demand capital punishment? no, murder 1 is not automatic capital punishment.