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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

have you tried nominating anyone younger than a mountain

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'd vote for a mountain over a fascist every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's great and all

But were talking about winning an election.

A pretty serious election...

Can we try not doing it with both hands tied behind our back?

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the person in a straitjacket shouldn't be complaining about tied hands.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

as you should. and of course you would, though the question is whether the American people in general will, especially considering the incredibly democratic elections you have where it doesn't matter which candidate has the most votes.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That would involve Americans being interested in politics more then once every 4 years

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if the news had talked about someone besides Trump sometime in the last decade we'd be better informed.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

like you were informed before TFG ran for office...? or were they talking about him then too?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what TFG means. I would consider myself fairly well informed prior to Trump getting elected. Presidents still got the lion's share of coverage but I was fairly aware of what a lot of other political figures were doing. Since Trump was running against Hillary practically everything in US politics is about him or relating to him in some way. I still try to read news every day but it's incredibly frustrating with how much coverage that orange POS gets.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

weird you switched from "we" in your previous comment to "I" here. my point was the US voters were never well informed. be it reelecting W, or picking the original celebrity president Reagan with an insane landslide, a brilliant move that would ruin the country for generations to come.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

I can't speak for what information other people were paying attention to or why they voted that way. I'm not old enough to remember Reagan's election but there was plenty of information available when Bush was running there's always going to be people who refuse to consider the opposing party regardless of info they have available. My point was now there isn't even coverage available unless you really dig for it. To know about alternative candidates media picks one story (Usually about Trump) and beats it to death for weeks and even a lot of that is garbage opinion based "journalism".

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The DNC never ran a primary of any kind. The incumbent is always given the nomination.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, they tried, and Biden won about 90% of votes in the primaries.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lol. Such a ridiculous take.

So at the time people with private access were swearing up and down the emperor had clothes, the people voted in a 'primary' where the only opposition was someone no one had ever heard of with no media budget and with no debates between the candidates, and voted for the allegedly clothed emperor.

Then the emperor showed up stark naked to a debate, everyone saw with their own eyes, and people are freaking out.

But no, naked dude is definitely what "the people" want.

Do commenters regurgitating this stuff even hear themselves?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bidens age was never a secret. Votes have consequences. People rejected Bernie twice, now live with the consequences.

Same for the Republicans, they could have had Bush 2, Rubio, Kaisich, Hailey or even Cruz, they chose the criminal ignorant clown.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

are we pretending there was a real democratic primary now?

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"rigged election"... where have I heard that lately...

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

oh that's so weak. this isn't the general election. yes it is rigged because there were no real options. who were the primary candidates?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your ignorance is not "rigging".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the point? Even if I didn't know, you think I wouldnt just Google it? What does that prove?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i guess you're so focused on arguing for the sake of it you forgot what you were talking about.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's weak sauce. You made a stupid point and now try to distract. Seen it before.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

distract from what exactly? I'm talking about your own comments.

weak sauce is when you say shit without knowing anything. you said people voted 90% for Biden and i said there was no real primary. then you argued the primaries were not "rigged" so i asked who even ran against Biden and you said you didn't even know.

that's right. i knew you didn't know. that's why i asked. because you wouldn't have posted your inane initial comment if you knew what the fuck you were talking about.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said I didn't know. You desperately wanted me to say that. If it you need to lie about the most basic facts that is a bit sad.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i didn't want you to say you didn't know, i wanted you to say who ran against Biden in the primary. it's just obvious you didn't know because you didn't answer the question and still haven't. can't answer a question and accuse me of distracting because I hold you to it.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And i repeat: it proves nothing.

  • if I know it I say it, you move the goal post

  • if I don't know it and Google it and say it, you move the goal post

  • if I don't know it and admit it, it proves nothing anyway. The fact that a guy in Germany knows or doesn't know the participants of an American primary has nothing to do with rigging.

So I don't see the need of answering as it's moot.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what it proves is your 90% comment being pointless, and doubling down when i said there was no real primary completely unhinged. the point is it doesn't matter whether you knew, you were either talking out your ass about things you don't know or you knew and pretended it holds any weight. either way you're full of it.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, there was no rigging and you are just angry?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure thing buddy, finish your pudding.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you just keep coming with rock solid arguments

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago