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[–] derGottesknecht 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, the Biden Ukraine Conspiracy Theory. . Seems to be a load of bullshit by Republicans and Putin...

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Ahh, so in this comment you’re pretending to be informed?

You know who else is promoting this conspiracy? Joe Biden for pardoning his son for crimes related to it.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was to stop investigations writ large, it was not specific to Ukraine.

You might as well say Joe Biden pardoned his son for any crimes he commited on the moon. Or for being one of the definitely-real 2000 Mules, or for helping manufacture Covid in Wuhan.

He's pardoned from all of those too. Which means he did them all, right? Biden is promoting all those conspiracies too!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

The pardon specifically set the start date for the day Hunter started at Burisma in Ukraine, which is ground zero for the bribery and influence peddling scandal. Not quite the tenuous connection you claim.

You working for a government or private astroturf farm?

[–] derGottesknecht 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can use Google to inform myself, you should try it yourself. And the wikipedia article is pretty clear that the burisma connection is a conspiracy theory. Or do you have any proof for your theory?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So we’re gonna let Google and Wikipedia determine what’s true? Two big tech companies widely known for their collaboration with and manipulation by government and corporate narrative control?

Hunter Biden already provided the proof with his emails. He left evidence all over the place. And now that he no longer has any rights to claim the fifth amendment when being questioned for these crimes, we might finally get some answers.

But I’m not quite clear why the president openly pardoning for crimes during the period of this scandal isn’t enough of a smoking gun. A presidential signature acknowledging these crimes for the world to see takes us waaaaay past the point of “conspiracy,” and eclipses your Wikipedia-based denial.

[–] derGottesknecht 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is a big tech company? Wikipedia known for collaboration with government?

Emails which were found by a blind guy, got lost by rudy Giuliani and were most likely obtained by russian hackers?

Give me some sources for your claims or take your tinfoil hat and get lost.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] derGottesknecht 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your links only confirm that the principle of wikipedia works, despite attempts to manipulate articles they get reverted and the manipulation is discovered.

And sorry, but if you don't trust Wikipedia, why trust the nyp with a factual reliability of medium and a right wing bias?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, the changes very often stand. Wild that you find it offensive to say people shouldn’t trust Wikipedia (a widely understood & accepted stance), but you’ll completely write off Hunter Biden’s own deposition because of the outlet reporting on it.

Also, the FBI confirmed the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop a while back, but you wanna write off that because of who found it. (https://abc3340.com/amp/news/nation-world/the-laptop-was-real-doj-confirms-in-new-court-filing-it-indeed-belonged-to-hunter-biden-capitol-hill-deposition-investigation-business-deals-james-comer-house-oversight-committee-computer-repair-shop-new-york-post-article-special-counsel-david-weissi)

The more you comment, the more you reveal your own massive tin foil hat. I guess even the FBI and Hunter are in on this conspiracy? LoL.

[–] derGottesknecht 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is one of if not the most trustworthy source of facts on the Internet. Nothing beats nerds who want to proof other nerds wrong. And especially in such high profile cases, changes by governments don't stay if they are wrong.

They confirmed the emails are authentic, not the laptop. The source your article cites does not confirm this.

Yes, but: Hunter Biden has never claimed the laptop was his, and the lawsuit also does not say he dropped the laptop off at Mac Isaac's store.

So where does the fbi really confirm that it's hunters laptop?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

…You mean the laptop that the emails came from?

I legit can’t figure out if you’re just this bad at astroturfing or an idiot.

[–] derGottesknecht 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. Why would hunter pick this shop, which owner is conveniently blind and then not pick it back up? And then the data gets send to rudy Giuliani? I mean come on.

The mails are most likely real, as verified by several sources so the point is moot, but in the end don't proof any corruption by biden with burisma. But I'm done talking with you, I only wanted to correct you on the gun charges and this conversation ceased to amuse me. You americans are fucked anyway, i'm only sad for all the people who voted to keep democracy. Bye

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Walk me through your logic on that. How do you believe these emails, which were verified, ended up on a laptop which you purport to be fake? On what basis have you decided he did not patronize this repair shop?

What democracy? The candidate I wanted to vote for was sued off the ballot by Democrats. These are supposed to be the people defending democracy? LoL.