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Double standards or something, I don't know... (lemmy.ml)
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[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Idk if this is a hot take, but imo the war in Ukraine is pretty clear city while the Palestinian and Israeli conflict his an infinite list of wrinkles and nuances.

It's far less controversial to say the former is Russia's fault than it is to say the latter is either Palestine's or Israel's fault.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Palestinian conflict is very simple: an army vs civilians. Only gonna end when all the latter are dead.

Should we ever try to sanction that army? Never! Should we try sanctioning US for killing million iraqis who had not a WMD? No! Should we sanction Nato for bombing the wealthiest african estate libya to it's ruin? Ah wait, WE are Nato. Can't shoot own ankle.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like both armies versus civilians.

There's not many other conflicts where I can remark "two war crimes don't make a right" damn near every time.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Hamas is a militia. They don't have an airforce and whatever else is required to be a military.

I'd urge you to compare the casualties caused by each of the "armies". Hamas is not even a fraction of the concern that Israel is.

[–] Ineocla@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah mostly because isreal/ Palestine conflict is much older then russia/Ukraine so a lot of things happened. But at it's very core they both started because of the same claim : russia claimed used to own Ukraine so they want it back. The jews used to own Palestine so they want it back. So if you support Ukraine and isreal you're just a hypocrite

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I mean, if you go further back than 1947/1948, didn't the Palestinians used to own Israel? Or do we want to go even further back, to about 1200 BCE?

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago

I haven't seen anyone here "support Israel". Almost everyone agrees that the Israeli State is not free of guilt, far from it.

What people really disagree over is whether that alone makes Palestine right (nuanced) and whether it justifies Hamas' actions (unhinged but unfortunately semi-common take on here).

[–] sevens@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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