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Why don't you americans have some younger and more capable people to vote for?
Why are you voting for nearly dead person and a liiiiiiiittle bit less nearly dead person that is also one of the most stupid beings on this planet?
Because America isn't a democracy, it's governed by 2 parties that service Capital above all else and presents preselected candidates that don't represent the interests of the people.
You can vote third party, but this is actively discouraged by both the establishment and the broader public, even if the broader public wishes it could happen. This provides an illusion of choice thay ultimately makes no material difference.
You can choose someone else. A lot of people just say this same rhetoric and make everyone else feel hopeless.
You undertsand no third party ever wins under an FTTP system, because it is mathematically impossible
Meaning I can vote third party, or meaning I can choose a different representative of the DNC? Again, the DNC preselects candidates and pushes them forward, Biden has an abysmal approval rating and is still being propped up. Third Party voting doesn't seem like it will gain enough impact to take the presidency either.
Strategically speaking, voting for a 3rd party in the US system means throwing away your vote. Which means even less people are going to vote 3rd party and the cycle continues.
The 2 options must be REALLY unpopular in order for a 3rd party to even start to have a chance.
oh look .ml pushing more both sides are the same bullshit. Shocking
Both the DNC and GOP are Capitalist parties. The GOP is a far-right populist party, and the DNC is a right-wing Liberal party. They have numerous differences, but also numerous similarities. They can be compared both ways.
The United States is the global Hegemon, with a firmly entrenched Capitalist class that dominates the media and both major political parties via donations and funding. The parties care more about maintaining the good graces of their donors than they do materially benefiting the public.
No, both parties are not the same, but both draw their support from the same direction and as such ultimately move in directions that service those that support them.
Yes judging people by their place of origin.. this is a sound argument. You sound like a digital republican.
That's a wonderful question.
Because the not-fascists are broadly satisfied to say "I told you so" from the moral high ground, and thus aren't super invested in winning. Those that are are so idealistic that they cant actually politic effectively, think never voting for a moderate will convince the party to try harder to appeal to them instead of write them off as unreliable.
God I've said this almost as long as I've been able to vote
Because they let old people vote while not going out to vote themselves and prefer to complain on the internet about the results instead of getting involved.
probably.... if i had to decide between biden and trump i'd take biden, no question.
But let's be honest here, both of them shouldn't be a allowed to even run for presidancy. Both are way too old and one of them is a fucking convicted fellon.
I agree, but as long as a minority of people under 30 bother to vote, why would they expect politicians to care about them?
that's so weird to see... look at the eu parliament elections a couple weeks ago.
so many young people voted.
In the US, it's not cool to pay attention to politics. People under 40 will refuse to vote and then brag about because the system is rigged. They won't run for any elected office either. In my state, most local races are unopposed Republicans. That's right, our left wing (lol left wing) party can't even field candidates in most races because Democrats are so unpopular and no one wants to run.
It's okay. This is likely the last election for a while. What's going to be the most frustrating is when the undesirables are killed or reeducated, they'll act like it was inevitable.
I vote a lot and politicians don't care about me.
Good, now get the other 60% of people under 30 to vote as well
They care even less than politicians about what I think.
Then get involved directly if you want to see someone with your opinions on the ballots.
They'll end up losing because I am weird and most people will vote for the other guy.
Ohhhh, young people didn’t vote hard enough.
The entire political scene is 70+ but it’s young peoples fault that the country is falling apart.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/voter-turnout-rate-by-age-usa
Barely over 40%
Young people don't get directly involved enough, the reason the whole political scene is over 70 is because younger alternatives don't get elected.