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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 153 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

teen go to website

please enter your birthdate

1/1/2000

welcome!

[–] DrunkenPirate 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lawyer sues tech company

But we asked for the birthday

Lawyer points to law text

Company fined

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't see many options between asking for a birthdate and asking for ID for this problem. I don't see any way that this can be enforced that isn't problematic.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Facebook/Meta has developed software to estimate the age from a video.

I don’t see any way that this can be enforced that isn’t problematic.

Comes with the territory. The point is to control who has access to what information so that they don't get wrong ideas.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

if you think AI software will be able to differentiate between a 15 year old and 16 year old then I have this cool bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in.

This is delusional to the point where it feels like we're literally devolving.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 11 points 3 weeks ago

Trusting your face to Facebook is just as terrifying, thanks.

(Plus I have concerns as someone who still looks teenage in her 20s)

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t see many options between asking for a birthdate and asking for ID for this problem. I don’t see any way that this can be enforced that isn’t problematic.

The senate inquiry outlined the two likely solutions :

  1. Uploading ID to the website.

  2. 3D face scanning. This will include continual monitoring so if another person comes into view they will have to face scan in. Remember, its prohibited for chidren to even watch prohibited content with their parents.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 3 weeks ago

Lol those options harm children

[–] copd@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

How can it possibly be legal to 3D face scan a child, especially if it needs to be authenticated by a remote server somewhere.

I can only ever see option 1 working

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A large part of this will help maintain liability for harm to young people. How ages is verified is irrelevant

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How ages are verified are irrelevant? Until a whole collection of faces or government IDs inevitably leaks!

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you over 16: Yes/No.

That wasnt difficult.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If this would indeed be the case, I would be really happy.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They have no specified otherwise so its a case of why would they waste money doing otherwise.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

To avoid said potential liability? Or because the law would include actual enforcement, like it was proposed at least in some places?

[–] Clanket@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Problematic for who, the tech companies? They're practically printing money. Let them spend it on actual solutions to issues that are causing problems for the World.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It forces them to implement solutions that make having anonymous accounts impossible.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

it's not a problem that can be solved by tech.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Problematic for the children who are having their rights taken away. This change bans children from connecting with their friends in other countries, other states, and even other cities.

Even something as simple as hopping in a voice call with your squad to play Deep Rock Galactic is now illegal for 15 year olds. That's ridiculous. The fact that they can break the law is great, but they shouldn't have to break the law in order to do something so harmless.

What about using Zoom to speak to a doctor or therapist? What about contacting queer support resources through social media? What about using a text based suicide hotline? According to the law, that's social media.

I'm well old enough to satisfy these checks and I also do this. If I'm feeling productive, I'll pick a random date.