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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 74 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (59 children)

I never understood the obsession with stupid difficult games at all. It's like, let me bang my head on a coffee table for 3 hours trying to make 5 minutes of progress. No thanks

Edit: Wow, this blew up, quite a controversial take, and not a hint of irony from all the people commenting about how I don't get it.

Edit 2: For what it's worth, I have played Dark Souls 1 all the way through, some of Dark Souls 2, got to the end of Bloodborne, played about 3 hours of Elden Ring, and a bit of Lies of P. These games just aren't for me. I played them bcz my friend loves them, and I was trying to make a soulslike bcz that seems to be all the rage right now.

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe stop and think that it isn't that difficult to everyone? I don't want to sound elitist, but people have different level of skills at video games (or anything really).

Saying no games should be hard is like saying no books should be difficult to read. To take the book analogy further, at some point after reading a lot of books you want to read more and more complex books. To say we shouldn't have difficult books would be a disservice to those who want them.

Both easy and hard games should exist. And everything in between. Not every game needs to be played by everyone, which I think really is the issue. People feeling left out or pressured into games that aren't their play style.

Complaining that the game is too hard , or the opposite, that the player is too bad. Both of these are the wrong approach. The best approach is "I'm not the intended audience for this game"

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

But what if I want to play ER for the story that everyone keeps gushing about?

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

See, there are many soulslike games that have attempted this; make the base game play normally, but also add invincibility options or low-difficulty modes for those who prefer it. BUT, those games don't work, and utterly fail, because --TODO: INSERT BULLSHIT MADE UP REASON BEFORE POSTING--

Then watch someone on YouTube do the suffering for you. At that point it’s just a movie.

[–] thinkyfish@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd recommend looking up guides to help griding up to level 150 and do a guided build. Then you can take on every boss pretty easily with 20min of practice.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And here is the problem with elden ring.

Grinding.

Since when is grinding fun? The word itself, grinding isn't even fun.

Elden ring is my most played most hated game. I come back for the vistas, the art. But there is no story and if there is it's stupidly well hidden. Some story quests are so very easily missed and other things just impossible to do without a guide. Also the fact that there is no quest log (do this for that guy) makes returning to elden ring after a hiatus almost impossible.

Choosing a fighter class makes the game way too hard. But if you choose a caster the difficulty drops like 400% or even more.

No guidance. Nothing. Fuck you if you chose a samurai because he looked cool on your first playthrough.

Everything is hidden behind a grind wall. And so many quests are so very buggy. In my current playthrough I should meet blaidd the half wolf down below looking up to whats the cities name. But he isnt there. Doesn't spawn. Apparently i went of on another quest and it conflicts or something. Now im stuck.

Do bushes talk? Here they do. Because one of them isn't a bush. A voice says: over here! But what is that, exactly? Here? Where is here? Im on a computer, directional audio doesn't really work. It took me hours to find that useless guy.

Jellyfish. Just kill them, they are inconsequential and do not really interact with the player. They cant talk. Untill.. You're far into the game and suddenly you hear a voice. Talking about his/her lost spouse. Who? Where? You just slay that jellyfish because they cant talk, that cant be it. Or.. It could? Fuck it was. Important item forever locked to you.

If you like that kind of foolery in a game i seriously recommend the 80s/90s sierra online games. Police quest, kings quest, the larry games. But i thought we where way past those kind of stupid game mechanics. Ken sent me. Flush the toilet. But not too many times because then you drown. Go to the hooker but if you forgot to buy a condom you die. Dont give a too big tip to the cabbie. He will buy liquor, get drunk and kill you both. The dialog made that fun. The first time.

The difference was, in those ganes i could save scum. Here I can't.

I fucking love AC6. that's a masterpiece by from software. But ER? ER shouldn't be easier, it should explain more. Not much but a little. I see you chose a fighter. Are you sure? We recommend a caster class for beginners. Give me a quest log. Unbug those quests. Give a warning if something breaks something else.

And thats the problem with ER. It could be fantastic

I love grinding. That’s why I still play wow 15 years later.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Then you gotta push through, beat it. Or decide it's not worth it.

I've done that couple times with Silmarillion, decided that the story is not worth it.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I have played Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 2, and Bloodborne. I just don't like Souls games, but my friend does, so i played them with him.

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