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Summary

Passengers on an American Airlines flight from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth restrained a Canadian man with duct tape after he allegedly attempted to open a cabin door mid-flight, claiming he was the “captain” and needed to exit.

The man became aggressive, injuring a flight attendant as he rushed toward the door.

Several passengers, including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris, subdued him, using duct tape to secure his hands and ankles.

Authorities detained the man upon landing, and the incident remains under investigation.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That doesn't give anyone a pass to try and open it.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, but it does mean that calling it attempted murder is a bit strong. They were trying to do something that's physically impossible for them to do. It'd be like calling it attempted murder if I went up to someone and tried to use my psychic powers to explode their heart.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Did you not read the article and read about the assault against the flight attendant?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Did you not read the comments I was responding to? They were specifically about opening the door.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Intent is the key, if the person had a gun they thought was loaded but actually wasn't, wouldn't it still be attempted murder if they put it to your head and pulled the trigger? Same thing with the door, they thought it would open.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

So if I genuinely believe I can use my psychic powers to explode peoples' hearts, I should be up on attempted murder charges whenever I glare at someone with intent to kill?

Given that in a basically identical case someone linked to elsewhere in this thread no murder-related charges were filed for trying to open an airplane door like this, I suspect that wouldn't be the outcome here either.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am specifically addressing the comment:

Opening the door during flight is attempted murder of everyone on board

It is not attempted murder. The case you link to backs me up:

Gapco is charged with interference with a flight crew, and attempted damage to an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States.

Why no attempted murder charge, if it's attempted murder?

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe try to reason about why an insane person might do that instead of assuming that everybody is evil?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago

Feel free to reason it out with someone on your next flight as they do everything described in the article. Have fun.