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Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Actually we might even be working against the cause.

That would mean destruction of NATO. No European country can be in a defense alliance with a country that actively support an invasion by Russia in Europe.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Trump doesn't care about the NATO. He thinks it's a big US-led charity organization that protects the weak, poor other countries who rally under the umbrella because murricah is just so superior and cool. I don't think he actively seeks to destroy it, but if his actions lead to its downfall, he would not be upset at all.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

What the incoming president fails to understand is that the money that the US funnels towards NATO helps keep a lid on conflicts "over there", so they don't end up "over here", like WWII.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It wouldn't. The U.S. is a big part of NATO, but NATO will live on without the U.S. the European Union has very much the same clauses - even the U.K. would still be part of that.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 14 points 12 hours ago

That would mean destruction of NATO.

IIRC that's an explicit Project 2025 goal, but maybe I misremember.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, he's probably ending nato. Or at least he keeps promising to do that, and there's nothing that will stop him, so.... Good luck! We'll all fucking need it!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

If Trump continues the policies of his first term, but dial it up as many say he will. He will destroy not only NATO, but American international influence in general, because nobody can trust USA. That will do a lot of harm to American economics especially over time, USA has essentially decided the terms for international trade since WW2, helped by their many allies, ending that will be very costly for USA.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

After how we treated the Kurds, I cannot believe anyone still trusts us. We have a lot of shit in our house that needs cleaning, and we sure do seem to be shooting all the maids....