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I feel like Brevik is demonstrating that he can't be rehabilitated. Most people can be; some can't. I'm not sure what else could be done with him at this point that hasn't already been tried to change his belief system.
I do not foresee a point where he will no longer be a danger to other people.
I agree, I don't see that happening either. And if that is the case he will never leave the prison
Is there no maximum sentence in Norway?
Iirc, in Germany, even if people are sentenced to e.g. 170 years for multiple crimes, they are let go after, I believe, 25 years.
The maximum sentence is 21 years of "forvaring" that translates to 'keeping" it's not a regular prison sentence as it can be prolonged indefinatly. It's for the worst offenders that are a danger to others as long as they have not improved during the sentence. Usually all prison sentences will include increasing length of leaves. Few hours with guards at first, then with half way house personell and in the end weekends and weeks alone. Breivik had had none so far, and is the only one who have little or no contact with other inmates.
Ah, now that you say "forvaring" ..! Yeah, we have that too, it's called "Sicherheitsverwahrung" ("preventive detention" in English). I recognized the term but I never knew what it was.