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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I won’t say Finland or Thailand were great powers but Japan had a decent showing so it’s not like they were alone

Though it really only took USSR to beat Germany

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The USSR was only in the fight thanks to lend lease and even Stalin admitted as much.

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 11 points 2 days ago

Bingo. American industry, British intelligence, and Russian Blood won the war in Europe. It was always a combined effort, and anyone claiming one power could have won alone is talking nonsense.

With American supplies, the USSR might have been able to defeat Germany without the Allies sending ground forces into Europe. However, there’s no way the Red Army could have defeated both Germany and Japan alone. The United States was the major force in the Pacific theater.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I think a major part of getting "beat" is they fought the USSR in the east and simultaneously the USA and UK in the west. I mean the war against Stalin wasn't going super smoothy. But it went on since 1941 already. And it really went south for the nazis when the USA joined WW2.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Outside of industry the US didn’t impact much

The Western Front was going to be won without them due to German troop and supply limitations

The US war effort was the Pacific and preventing the USSR from taking all of Germany (Allies made it in time)

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Things would have gone smoother for them if the British didn't slow them down with Yugoslavia.

Good chance they would have captured Moscow and Stalin.