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[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And when the doctor decides you're an attention seeking malingerer and refuses to help, what then?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Don't stop until you get help.
I'm lucky to have a colleague who identified I was depressed, and had gone through a similar scenario.
Don't stop until you feel you've been heard, until you've been listened to, until you agree with the doctor.
Don't fucking stop

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it is the first doctor to say that, I'd seek another opinion. If it's the second or third, well maybe...

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let me guess, you're a man? A most likely white, cis and straight, man.

How am I doing?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kinda creepy to start asking and assuming like that...

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ask some of the women in your life about what it's like trying to access healthcare. Ask how often they're listened to by doctors and how much respect is given when they say something is wrong.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You think it's hard to access healthcare where I live? Why..?

You're making awfully lot of assumptions about other people ngl. Assuming their country is less weird but gender, sexuality, all that gets pretty weird.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“Brave Men” and “Emotional Women”: A Theory-Guided Literature Review on Gender Bias in Health Care and Gendered Norms towards Patients with Chronic Pain

Analysis: Women’s pain is routinely underestimated, and gender stereotypes are to blame

There are hundreds more papers like this from many different countries.

There are also hundreds of reddit threads about this, with thousands upon thousand of replies from women all over the world, who also attest to it.

And queer men usually have some understanding of intersectional feminism these days, and have likely experienced some form of medical discrimination due to homophobia.

Not to mention folk of colour in predominantly white countries, who also regularly face medical discrimination.

So not believing that women (and female presenting folk) have a harder time accessing the healthcare they need, is yes, a very straight, white, male privileged point of view.

I do admit though that I am just guessing you are white and living in either the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, UK or Western Europe, mostly based on the fediverse demographic.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not great to assume stuff just because someone holds a different view. It'd be like me assuming you are a woman for being emotional and illogical. Not great and can be viewed as insulting, even when you feel it's an informed and fair guess.

It's just better to keep to the facts known and not argue with your assumptions.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you point out which bits of what I wrote were emotional and illogical?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Your whole argument relies on that a medical professionals, plurar, would be more likely to be incorrect about a medical situation than a random hypothetical person based on how the person feels.

If based on that I guessed you would be a woman of course most of the time I'd be right. But voicing such assumptions and going off on that seems like it'd be rude and detrimental to the conversation.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bruh, I literally gave you peer reviewed scientific studies as sources. Lmao.

Tell me again about how this hurt your feelings and what a mean lady I am for doing it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The studies don't actually show what you hoping that they show, that is that your run-of-the-mill person was better at knowing what issues they have. If doctor after doctor keeps telling you your issue isn't what you think it is, you might want to consider their words. That's all.

Tell me again about how this hurt your feelings and what a mean lady I am for doing it.

I've just been taught that assuming someone's gender, skin colour and stuff like that is pretty yikes. I don't mind rude though.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So what I'm seeing here is that you really don't read so good, huh? That's ok, literacy isn't everybody's strong suit. Maybe go ask your mum or sister to explain what I wrote to you, they might have an easier time getting through on your level.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not sure if congratulating women or insulting them. Yikes either way for gender based insults. Do better.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 week ago

Lmao, way to go proving you can't read.

[–] Magrice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trying to get someone to reframe their perspective in such a aggressive manner helps no one. Everyone has gaps in their experiences so let's assume the best before lashing out

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Can you show me where I'm bring aggressive and lashing out please?