this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
911 points (95.2% liked)

Leopards Ate My Face

3477 readers
46 users here now

Rules:

Also feel free to check out !leopardsatemyface@lemm.ee (also active).

Icon credit C. Brück on Wikimedia Commons.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They see big corporations making huge profits and somehow come to the conclusion it must be the illegal immigrants who are causing the problem (?)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In part, yes.

I've seen it myself as the son of a roofing contractor who votes Republican because when he was younger and his business was thriving, his bids were undercut by other companies using illegal labor. Now he's in his 80's and driving for DoorDash, because that's the only job he can get and Biden and Co. aren't going to do anything to help his situation if he doesn't find a way to make money.

I'm just one person in America, but there are millions of stories like this. It really can't be denied that while there are many positive effects of immigration, there are also negative effects, and those can become more pronounced when illegal immigration numbers increase as dramatically as they have in the past four years.

With that said, nearly every working class American is struggling on some level, having watched their grocery, utility, and rent costs double and triple over the last four years. They may not even give a shit about immigration, but they do care that they're working 60-80 hours a week (or more) and their pay isn't sufficient to deal with the cost of living.

And Dems wasted months of the campaign telling struggling people to be joyful.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

"Increase as dramatically as they have in the past four years" But have they really. The numbers I'm seeing don't seem to support your point:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/646261/unauthorized-immigrant-population-in-the-us/ Shows that generally the number of Unauthorized immigrants increased from 1990 at 3.5 million to 11.31 in 2006, and have bounced around 10.49 to 11.75 (2016) up to 10.99 in 2022.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

because that’s the only job he can get and Biden and Co. aren’t going to do anything to help his situation if he doesn’t find a way to make money.

What's Trump going to do for his situation?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Our guy is as bad as their guy" isn't the blistering retort you think it is.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Harris wasn't as bad as Trump, that's the galling thing.

But really, it doesn't matter now and I'm done arguing about it.

We're all going to suffer, but the fire that will warm my heart for the next four years is all the calories I'll burn telling Trump voters. Stein voters, and non-voters that they are getting what they voted for.