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Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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Yesterday, an unexpected admin post was made announcing that hexbear would be shutting down and recreating two of their most popular communities (a): the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank. For those who are not aware, those two are some of the most notorious comms in the threadiverse which routinely cause inter-lemmy drama (disclaimer, the deteriorating relations between our instance and hexbear and my own ban from hexbear was ultimately triggered by various posts in the_dunk_tank)

The stated reason was to promote more thoughtful discussions and to prevent a white cishet mindset which was apparently promoted by the content in those comms, according to the mods and admins.

Within a day 1.3 thousand comments were made with hexbear regulars upset at this decision and discussing within.

However, before this announcement, the top admin of hexbear posted in the cross-lemmy admin matrix chat urging other admins to close down their "drama communities" as well.

Hexbears caught wind of this and quickly accused the admin of duplicity, and having other motives instead of their stated ones. The admin in question as defense admitted that it was their attempt to manipulate other lemmy instance admins and it backfired on them

After a whole day of this, the main admin decided to step away from hexbear (a) , followed by more resignations (a)

In the midst of this, people realize another old-mod had recently come back after a 3-year hiatus, and now people start suspecting some correlation. That mod makes a public post (a) before shortly after deleting their account.

There's also smaller pieces of chaos ongoing, such as one admin, banning one of their alts "as a bit" using wording that they were not aware is misgendering ("fella") which caused other hexbears to pile on. Eventually that was resolved, and admins are asked to tone down the "bit doing" during this heated period.

This "struggle session" is still ongoing, with people are asking the resigned mod to come back , and other admins unbanning accounts which were getting banned left and right(a) but it seems those popular comms still remain shut down.

EDIT: Even lemmygrad is wondering what the hell is going on

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cannot, for the life of me, understand what the appeal of all of this is.

I think it's the same hunger for excitement that makes sports appeal to people, or leads people to create drama at work.

That was a ruse in an attempt to get the other admins to close their drama communities like the ones that harassed vegantheoryclub admins but I did not expect the hexbear sleuths to find that so not only did the ruse fail but I blew up any chance of doing another in the future with other lemmy admins while further alienating hexbear users.

It blows my mind that they thought this would work.

Hexbear users are alienated because they enjoy being annoying. That's it. That's the secret. They can always stop doing that, that's always allowed. Being dishonest isn't great, but there are a lot of people in authority on Lemmy that are dishonest, and it's mostly not a problem.

I also like the implication that it was the unmasking of the ruse that made it not work, instead of the fact that this is the stupidest ruse I've ever heard of.

Eventually that was resolved, and admins are asked to tone down the “bit doing” during this heated period.

Not in general, of course. It's only a problem right now during this heated period. I wonder what some other "bits" are.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wonder what some other “bits” are.

Like a lot of other insular online communities, the humor has gone through multiple levels of "deep frying" that it becomes almost alien to an ousider looking in.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

One admin there pretty much admitted that their only purpose for interacting with the fediverse is trolling. There is legitimately nothing of value lost by ignoring them.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Yep. Their stated purpose for federation is to "dunk on liberals" and "dispel the illusion of Western propaganda", whatever that's supposed to mean. They were never intending to participate in good faith. Heck, when they were planning to federate with the instance I'm on, they were talking about how they were going to "plant their seeds in our field" as if the instance is just space for them to force their ideals on others, and not a community full of people. Like you said, they bring nothing of value to the platform.