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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I said Hilary went an itsy bitsy teeny weeny bit left with the map room to fight climate change. That's what she did. And she lost. Thanks protest non voters!

Did we have President Gore? No we did not. We can talk all day about this or that, but we did not have President Gore. Thanks 3rd party protest voters!

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Hillary lost because she was a corrupt, out of touch (Pokemon go to the polls), unlikable piece of shit who stole the primary from Bernie (as shown by the John Podesta email leaks). She also used the "pied piper" strategy to help Trump win the RNC primary because she thought he was the most beatable candidate. Voters didn't even know she wanted to fight climate change because she never talked about it. She also participated hardcore in voter shaming (which is also what you're doing) and ran a pro-corporate, right wing campaign against Trump in the general. No shit, she lost, especially in the Rust Belt, which Bernie was doing well in according to polls.

Al Gore lost because the Republican party refused to count several votes in Florida, claiming that hanging and dented chads were not valid. It was later found with a recount that Gore won that election.

When leftist voters have to choose between corporate right and corporate right, they will sit out, protest vote, or begrudgingly vote for the Democrat due to a lack of a better option. Voter shaming is extremely toxic and will actively repel leftist voters.

Voters need something to vote for, not against.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Whatever else you can say, Hillary was not channeling a lot of enthusiasm outside of a very narrow group.

It felt like there were weeks in peak campaign season where she wasn't touring or making speeches. What even was her signature issue? (Considering how she was associated with the abortive attempts towards universal health care during Bill's term, that would have been a sensible focus, but I don't recall it mentioned once)

The whole campaign reeked of "play to not lose" rather than "play to win". She assumed she was the annointed favourite, guaranteed the win, and that's not really going to excite uncommitted voters. Bernie, at least, generated buzz.

Hillary thought that the elites decide elections and not the voters, so she appealed to the elites more than the voters.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole campaign reeked of “play to not lose” rather than “play to win”.

Dewey Defeats Truman moment

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

"Happy Birthday to this future President" more like.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i see how it fits your theory but her leftness wasnt why people didn't vote for her. she didnt bother campaigning in the states that mattered and she acted entitled, and Bernie Sanders stole hearts while she stole DNC. etc etc.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

She did do some campaigning early in those states. It turned out that the more they saw of her, the less they liked her. Her campaign kept her out of those states because she was a liability to her own campaign. Trump ran on fighting for average Americans. (Bullshit of course). Hillary ran on scolding the candidate offering change.