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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 3 months ago (21 children)

I kind of get your point. However, the state, as we knou it today is a relatively new invention. And the original idea of the post was that the US was founded on "enlightenment ideas", like democracy and such. This framing is very cynical, since the european upper class probably got those concepts from the native Americans which the US displaced/genocided.

Also: I'm an anarchist, so I'll guess you'll forgive that I'm not too fond of states. ;)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (15 children)

“enlightenment ideas”, like democracy and such. This framing is very cynical, since the european upper class probably got those concepts from the native Americans which the US displaced/genocided.

What an absolutely bizarre idea.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The point is about the concepts of the European Enlightenment being derived from Native Americans (which is absurd), not that the Founding Fathers specifically understood and owe some debt to Native American forms of governance (which is controversial but mainstream and backed by evidence).

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