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I was just reading this post https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ and many barely see the fediverse as an alternative and they seem to have a negative bias towards it. Super ironic when it comes to the self-hosting community. Yes, some instances are problematic, yes, some devs might have had problematic views. But it doesn't really matter when it's federated and FOSS. I think it's clear-cut that the selfhosting community on Lemmy is a perfect alternative to reddit. Why is there such a negative bias?

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[–] BonerMan@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The biggest point is tankies and the toxic "left" people here and that Lemmy has some major problems regarding stability and the ability to effectively moderate.

Another point is that Lemmy has in may places worse moderation than reddit.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah there are clearly some toxic people who won’t tolerate anything different than them. They can be leftists or rightists who are gonna hate you for whatever reason.

I didn’t have this feeling on reddit to be honest.

And it’s a shame because I’m censoring myself because of this on some subject where I could bring another point of view.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The people you are probably referring to exist on like, two instances. Everybody always ends up on the ".ml" ones for their first experience and is immediately horrified by the hardcore tankie content. That's because those specific instances are run by actual Marxist-Leninists.

Well it happened to me mostly in technology communities where my job as a police man in a country without too much corruption was giving me a different point of view than people who were seeing a corrupt government spying on them all the time.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I haven't seen a single "right" person on Lemmy, except when you count the Stalinists as right (wich they kinda are)

And I hate that there are so many of them.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah to be honest it’s true that I’ve only seen lefties. I’m sometimes on the left side and sometimes on the right side, but it’s crazy how you can’t really express an opinion without being insulted or other things..

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 3 points 6 days ago

You can't say anything without people hating on you. I'm a actual social Democrat and therefore the worst enemy of tankies and Stalinists.

I don't care what they say about me, I care when they are in charge of anything and ban people for other opinions, wich happens a lot.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy has in may places worse moderation than reddit.

yet this is exactly what the fediverse was designed to work around. giving the power back to the users. when .ml decides to block a bunch of shit due to butt-hurt mods, communities can be moved elsewhere without everyone having to make new accounts.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These many places tend to be the biggest and most popular places...

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

agreed that we need to work on scaling out horizontally. i think that ironically poor moderation will help with this over time. it took reddit 20 years to get where it is.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy instances are a pain in the ass to keep working, most people with a life won't do that and people without a life are usually extremists.

sounds like a lot of conjecture to me. i think there is hope in groups owning, operating and funding their own instances. software platforms will get better over time. funding pathways will get better over time.

i dont think we should just toss our hands up and say 'nope, too hard. only jerks need apply'