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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It makes me slightly uneasy and sad that this is done for big events, but I also understand why.

I think the knowledge just saps some of the frivolity from what is otherwise a fun, low-stakes outing.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 112 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I kinda hate to be this guy, but:

Know this does not exist in any other country

It is unnecessary in any other country

America has entirely constructed its own hell by simply not applying the same appropriate gun control you see in every other developed nation in the world

Edit: and I know you probably agree with me, but goddamn you've just collectively proven as a nation that over half your countrymen will bazooka their feet and the feet of everyone unfortunate enough to be near them, before even contemplating the idea of supporting someone who promises to make their lives better!

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

100%

It's a response to an entirely self-inflicted problem.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's not true,

As example, 2 years ago I was in Strasbourg for the winter markets and saw 2 things:

  1. Roving squads of military and police armed with submachine guns and even battle rifles. (Some in blue police uniforms, some in camo)
  2. I tried to get a photo from above everything and explored some stairwells. (I like urban exploration) I opened an upper floor office door and was startled by a room full of cops with binoculars and rifles leaning on the wall / resting on a table. They were not very happy with me and it took me about an hour of being a dumb tourist to disengage.

I saw similar on foot squads in Germany too.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An hour?? That's crazy-- seems like their fault the room wasn't secure, but they had to harass you for that long before letting you go?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Checked my passport, called my hotel, checked my flights. agree, honest mistake it should have taken a few minutes. Also I doubt it was a full hour but man it felt like a lifetime.

Edit I don't think I was actually detained but they spooked me into agreeing to hang around while they verified things

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

That is more along the lines of high government official protection at special events they attend in other countries though, not a standard practice at normal sports games.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You said that hate misinformation, but in the first link it was a guy approaching the president, not a random game, also I always laugh when someone compare USA to Brasil and get mad when I answer that USA is a third world country

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

If you think that's misinformation idk what to tell you.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every single big event all over the world has the potential to be a target for a terrorist attack.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every time you leave your house you have a chance to be hit by a car. It's many orders of magnitude more likely than to get killed by a terrorist attack. Yet everyone still drives cars.

The fear of terrorism has been used to curtail so many liberties. Always as a temporary measure. Draconian pre-flight security screenings? (seriously, not being allowed to bring water?): "temporary". Expansion of the surveillance state and policing: "temporary".

It's time to start asking wether this is all worth it. The fetishization of "security above all" in modern political rhetoric is a bad thing, in my opinion.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In your buzzword filled rant to sound smart and further your own agenda you have succeeded in being completely up your own ass.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Explain your position.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Which you claim is...?

I stated my position quite clearly. Do you suggest some deeper agenda is at work here?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am guessing this is only specific to the USA.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

I saw so many snipers when I visited the UK... but that was like the year after 9/11 so it might have just been the style at the time.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You guessed wrong. There are lots of behind the scenes security measures we don't see.

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You would be very wrong