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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The militant Islamist group has dropped a demand that Israel first commit to a permanent ceasefire before signing the agreement, and would allow negotiations to achieve that throughout the six-week first phase, the source told Reuters on condition of anonymity because the talks are private.

Giving Israel what they asked for, and they'll still turn it down...

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

NGL it's kind of a brilliant way to make Netanyahu show his true intentions to the Israeli public.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Israeli public are in support of the genocide. This isn't a Netanyahu problem any more than nazi germany was a hitler problem. Polls from both this and the last time Israel bombed Gaza had <5% of Israeli Jews saying the IDF is bombing gaza too much.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’ve looked at 3 separate polls, none of which listed the number of respondents, which calls every bit of it into question. In my opinion of course.

Via Pew Research

A new Pew Research Center survey finds that 39% of Israelis say Israel’s military response against Hamas in Gaza has been about right, while 34% say it has not gone far enough and 19% think it has gone too far.

I did find a <5% figure, on the same page

Israeli Arabs are much more likely than Jews to say the country’s military response has gone too far (74% vs. 4%).

Just a bit of context

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that was the survey and the very data point I was talking about. There's similar numbers for surveys done during the 2012 and 2006 operations.

Turns out 90% of the Israeli "left" are the national kind of "socialists".

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah idk why they even posted this, so 34% of Israelis think there hasn’t been enough genocide? If you really chosen people I cant wait til the lord takes you back.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I thought it was interesting data, so I put it in a reply.

If you really chosen people I cant wait til the lord takes you back.

Don’t be an antisemite.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

Look at Tel Aviv University's latest peace index results.