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Bernie Sanders criticizes the Democratic Party for neglecting the working class, leading to their recent election losses.

He highlights issues like economic inequality, job displacement, healthcare costs, and foreign policy as key concerns for the American people.

Sanders questions whether the Democratic leadership will address these issues or remain beholden to big money interests.

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[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I really don't think that's true anymore. Maybe looking at decades of political party data but I think the games kinda changed with MAGA taking repubs extreme and Dem's going center-right. There are a lot of republicans who could find a home in the democratic party since we know 2028 will see a cult leader retiring and you know the Dem's are gonna run an old white guy out of fear. I'm hoping another party can cause a splash that election cycle but I see it going blue and hopefully the infrastructure for this third-party progressive moment can become solid in local with sites on national.

I'm no longer holding out for election change. Oregon just voted against RCV, the push-back from changing the voting system is just too much for our set-in-stone political machine we have running now. I'm definitely gonna look into the data about why that went down though, a lot of opposition from Dems and Repubs in Alaska and Maine so would be interesting to see what coalesced.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the Dem's are gonna run an old white guy out of fear.

Hey that's not fair, maybe they'll tap Hillary to turn this around /s (I hope)

[–] tripopov@discuss.online 4 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t give them ideas!

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There either won't be a 2028 election or it will be a sham. They have control of the entire government. The constitution will change. The courts will be harder right. The ONLY things holding them back will be a senator or two philibustering (until it's outlawed) and the senses of high military command.

Also since trump will have ultimate immunity in office he can simply ignore the constitution altogether without consequence. He won't have to step down. As admitted he'll be a dictator.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know what's going to happen, but focusing on what you're saying this early is only going to cause you panic when we need to be gathering our strength. We've seen from the MAGA movement that our democracy is fragile. The safeguards and protections that make everything "so difficult"^tm^ to change these past decades aren't necessarily that difficult after all.

I can see a few well established Dem's like Bernie and AOC jumping aboard a progressive party movement disguised as a blue wave much like was overtaken on the right. We see that there is room to capture voters that didn't turn out and from both parties, a small band CAN take over a movement if their dedicated enough.

It's just unfortunate that it was someone on the right who first abandoned party-lined politics and showed you can tame a party while speaking to the base (again, it was only like 20% of the population). It really makes me think that Bernie should've handled the fiasco in Nevada and South Carolina differently during the 2016 primaries. No blame to him, and I'm not sure what lesson there is to be learned besides authoritarianism and narcissistic tendencies are a way to brute force yourself into politics. But, I would've loved to see Bernie politely take the gloves off and took it to the people to back him up as well like Trump did with his group (just not, you know, all murdery and dark).

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah the way they did bernie dirty destroyed enthusiasm and that echos even today. The dems showed they don't care for a populist movement.

Im not saying give up. Just be real and listen to what trump and the right is saying. They don't shroud their intent anymore. They say it up front. Dictator day one.

We won't see a restoring change come from a political party. Whether the goal is pushing the current political structures left or superceding them it must come from popular mobilization.

[–] tripopov@discuss.online 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is strength gonna do if he literally does succeed in being a “dictator on day one” there is only one way to stop a fascist.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago

Organization can have more than one plan.