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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The message was loud and clear: America writ large is not ready for anything less than a straight, white, male president. Its time to stop being delusional, Obama was a fluke, and not going to be repeated. You might not like hearing it, but its the reality on the ground, don't take it from me.

In retrospect, I think Biden could have shat himself on live TV while asleep at the podium and probably have still gotten elected, the bar was so, so low. Kamala basically ran a prefect campaign, its just not what America wants.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obama was a once in many generation politician, he had charisma and appeal no democrat president ever had. Democrats better field a white straight male from now on if they want to win, forget women president for 3-4 decades now. The kind of misogyny in america is crazy, I am from India, a third world country and even we had a female Prime Minister in our 75 year of independent history, and she was very much respected and one of the most popular. America in its 250 year of history had none, thats just crazy for a so called superpower

[–] maniii@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

Obama was and is and always will be a centrist playing the role of a leftist. Romneycare watered down with extreme Republican ramrodding torpedoeing their own policies into Romneycare-lite and Obama still went with it. That's some of the reasons why people hate hate and really hate corpo dems and their nominees. Either voters get turned off or turned away or turned against.

Kamala and DNC are to blame for this mess.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Yeah that could be true, or it might also be true that people don't like corporate Democrats. Or maybe other issues are important. Maybe Harris was weak on Palestine. Maybe it mattered that the old man took so long to get himself out of the race. Maybe the fact that felons can't vote played a role. Maybe the electoral college was a factor.

Wait a second, we can go on and on and come up with all of these reasons that you don't think matter at all, but everyone else knows they do.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I heard plenty of jokes from Democrats who said when voting for Obama that they were voting for his white half. So your not wrong.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This post proves Bernie Sanders right about at least one person.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

STOP WITH FUCKING BERNIE. HES A MAN WAITING FOR DEATH. wake up and work for it with new people. Every comment for Bernie at this point is a vote against a future left of the GOP

Edit: or am I wrong, is someone going to vote for an 87 year old man who will be 88 when he starts and 92 when he finishes? Fuck

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I didn't say anything about Bernie Sanders as a candidate.

To answer your question, you are wrong because you created a strawman to argue against.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago

I'm a woman. I do not want someone incompetent as the first female president. I do not want a warmonger. I would happily and am very eager to vote in a female president who is both competent and has policies that get us peace. Kamala was not competent. Hillary was a war monger. Give us a good candidate and I'll give them a vote.

Millions of women feel the same as I do, as to millions of POC, both women and men.