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[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 55 points 5 hours ago (14 children)

The entire rest of the world needs to be on watch, trump is a potential threat to other countries

FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN AMERICA GET THE FUCK OUT NOW

[–] Zimroxo@lemm.ee 10 points 58 minutes ago

I can't even afford to live HERE, in the country I was born and raised in. How do you expect me to move somewhere else and gain citizenship there?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Counterpoint... If you leave, you're leaving the most power arsenal of doomsday weapons in the hands of a moron death cult.

Stay, and become ungovernable.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 20 points 2 hours ago

What is so fucked that the US isn't an anomaly. Authoritarianism has been on the rise since the 90s and we don't really have any more true democracies. The crazy right-wing jackasses that people back in 2000 and 2005 thought were just kooks and nutjobs are now 100% mainstream and they're taking over their respective countries... We are not in a good place.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] leisesprecher 2 points 22 minutes ago

By getting yourself a passport, a working permit for wherever you want to go and a plane ticket.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 58 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

You realize that unless you have a second citizenship it's not easy to just up and leave for another country?

[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world 36 points 3 hours ago

Even that isn't enough unless you have a lot of money laying around and some kind of support network in whatever country you plan to escape to.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

What I kinda hate is the liberals who act like they want to help but are actively planning to leave the country.

If they are brown or queer, sure. It's needed, seek asylum and live elsewhere. If they're white cis liberals who happened to have a back up plan and just abandon the people who thought they would save them?

"I'm here to help. Oh we lost despite me browbeating you and tokenizing your life. I'm off to England and Canada, bye! Maybe I'll give some bucks to a random gofundme."

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 21 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Most people don't. I really didn't get the whole scope/big picture until my wife (who immigrated as a child and now works with immigrant families) explained the whole process and gave examples of things she's seen at work and with people in the community. Last night we got dinner with my mom and she asked "OK where are we moving to?" to only get a lengthy conversation of how it's works and how hard it is. It's not as easy as buying a plane ticket, selling all your stuff or shipping things to where you are going and then picking up life as normal. I hope most people here realize that, but I felt like it needed to be said.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Immigration is never easy... Right? I'd like to hear more stories from those who ensured the process.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Shipping your things? Lmao 🤣

[–] DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 hours ago

I've looked, it's also incredibly expensive, outside of many people's means, mine included

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 84 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Lol and go where? From what I can tell, Canada has a housing crisis and is tilting right. Western Europe is already getting sick of immigrants and dealing with the far right.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 3 points 25 minutes ago

Canada has a housing crisis and is tilting right

Yeah. Trudeau's not super popular anymore because of all his scandals, open corruption, and his handling of the economy and immigration (I expect the Trump win will probably solidify his base somewhat, though, once people start comparing the opposition to Trump) and the NDP's never going to win a majority with Jagmeet at the helm (NDP voters aren't too thrilled about how far up Trudeau's ass his tongue regularly goes). That basically leaves the Bloc (which only cares about Quebec) and the Conservatives. No one outside of Quebec votes for the Bloc (no one serious, at least).

The most damaging thing Trump ever did was show the politicians of the world that you can pretty much just do whatever the fuck you want if you spread divisive hate and propaganda hard enough. The Cons weren't anywhere close to what the Republicans were before he got into office. In our case, the economy usually did get better under them. Unfortunately, they've been steadily becoming more and more extreme over the past couple of elections. It looked like they were trying to be more moderate when they had Erin O'Toole, but there were still some morons among them that were eager to show that they'd gone batshit insane, so they're back to doubling down on ol' Canadian Ben Shapiro now.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. They're DEALING WITH the far right. They haven't just handed they keys to the country over.

There's still a chance for them.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My wife and I have considered shoring up in Baja. We have quite a few friends in a well insulated community down there, and it's a 12 hour drive from where we're at, assuming they don't lock the border from the inside (which they probably will at some point).

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 3 minutes ago

Say hi to Jesse Ventura for me.

[–] ealoe@ani.social 11 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck that, I love this country and I'm not ceding it to a bunch of stupid bigots. They're the ones that should be leaving.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I thought the same except he won the popular vote too. I'm worried this isn't a minority of people with loud voices...I think this is America.

I've been duped or in denial or something.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 24 minutes ago

He won because Kamala underperformed. They both underperformed compared to 2020 actually, Kamala just moreso.

Voters are disillusioned with Democrats, and it's no wonder why when the Democrats keep running on policy that is unpopular with their base and relying on orange man bad to get their voters to the polls. It worked once, and then nothing changed, so of course it wasn't going to work again. Stop trying to push the blame off on voters and use this time to reflect on your own party's election strategy.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

It blows my mind you can still love this country after last night. Dude, we just ceded everything to the bigots. They've overwhelmingly achieved all their goals.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

What if I told you that the bigots made America into the hellscape you have Stockholm syndrome for?

Because the founding fathers certainly didn't like non-whites. Or even a lot of other white people.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

and move where? to another country electing fascists?

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah now that Russia has bought and paid for the US they can focus elsewhere.

[–] Baggins@feddit.uk 1 points 57 minutes ago

They'll be drinking champagne (or the Russian equivalent) in the Kremlin tonight. Putin and the KGB played the long game and won.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago

maybe it's not time to run, maybe it's time to fight.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I'm not leaving. All my friends are here. We don't run from danger.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 24 points 4 hours ago

I'd love to leave, but it isn't feasible for me. I'm absolutely terrified and have no way out.

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ahhh yes, it is so easy to pick up and move to another country. Why didn't anyone think of this earlier?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

"If you don't like America, leave!" Was what Republicans said for decades.

Now we're expecting the poor and disabled and BIPOC to just do it because Harris failed. Unbelievable.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

always has been.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, no thanks, I think things will get really good around here once January hits

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Need someone to remind you of this comment in 2028?