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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I just checked with the admin in question. Apparently this 3 day ban is for posting an image of a skinned dog on a bbq in a vegan community.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's a photograph of a PETA protest posted to vegancirclejerk which endorses this sort of protest.

The image specifically has the text "vegan" in it, and the dog is a prop.

Given this instance endorses animal abuse for the purpose of food, what are the grounds for the ban? The vcj admin can remove the post if they feel it goes against the community (it doesn't), people post bodyparts of animals to this instance all the time.

If footage of vegan protests is against the rules, that should be made explicit.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I understand why you posted it, and I understand why they banned it. That said, I personally don't I agree with this admin action since this was clearly a prop and nothing more gruesome than animals on a skewer than one sees constantly in various countries during bbq days, I think this kind of moderation should be left to those community mods which are better suited to know if it fits their community. That said, I can also understand why that mod felt that this sort of gore was too much.

I think this was an BPR overreach. I'll have to have a talk between admins and our community to see if this sort of thing is how we should handle it. Thanks for bringing it up.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Once again you come down on the side of facts with admins behaving as reactionaries over veganism.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure this is reaction against veganism, rather than a kneejerk reaction to gore or otherwise bad taste posts. Let's not be uncharitable here. I'll try to get this sorted with a community mandate.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I understand Naeva’s feelings because she was censored before by Lemmy World admins however you’re doing a good job sorting out the situation.

[–] Blaze 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So can a dbzer0 admin ban someone from a lemmy.vg community? Seems weird to me

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

apparently so. I suspect what happens is that the admin can only ban people for their own instance, so our instance will treat this user as banned, even if they can otherwise post. If it's out own user, that instance won't be able to see their posts in their community, but if it's a user from another instance, I suspect that only our instance user's won't see their posts in that community.

Strange that it works this way (don't blame me, I didn't build this software) but I guess this has some uses.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct, I suppose the ban button could be hidden from the ui in that case.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

honestly, we really just need a separation between "report to mod" and "report to mod & admins" or smt.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Also need an option to report to only admins, since mods which are abusive can just dismiss every report. Possibly even abuse the reporter. It happened to me earlier when someone created a community to harass me and pinged me on every post.

Being able to bypass mods is crucial in situations like that.

[–] Blaze 4 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting, thanks

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Here is a press release for the protest as proof I did not post any actual animal abuse.

https://www.peta.org.au/news/peta-barbecues-a-dog-in-a-sydney-shopping-mall/