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How Europe did actually vote
Sauce Considering that Harris would more or less match renew Europe + Green + S&D, and that Trump would match the huge blue block at the right, I don't think we're doing much better than our American friends
True. I suspect there are a bunch of effects that come into play because the question is basically, "What would go do if you could vote for another country?"
E.g., I am not sure whether respondents voted for the candidate they would want to live under (which I think would be the more straightforward option) vs. which candidate they would want to see in another country (for the benefit of their home country).
There's also a strong element of how deep people are in the national/US propaganda cycle vs. hearing a few news items from a distance.
Also ... The image above is of course presupposing a per-country first-past-the-post voting system. Denmark only has 4% Trump voters (which I don't think matches with their national voting behavior). However, e.g. Germany polled at 21% Trump voters which happens to line up almost perfectly with the percentage of far-right Afd voters.
I am quite sure that a lot of German CDU/CSU and FDP voters would also vote Trump over Harris, if these were the two only choices for the next federal election in Germany.
What we mostly hear about them is Trump being the crazy criminal and Harris being the rational decent person. It is very detached from the policies and also we saw how the right and far right media in Germany wrecked havoc on the Green party in the 2021 pre-election time. So the way the media and people talk about them would be very different. Also we have Merz having a stable high polling at 30-35% with going the Trump route. Just that instead of eating peoples pets, immigrants are stealing dentist appointments. The CSU also copied a lot of the anti LGBT propaganda from the US Republicans, the Greens are the source of all economic problems...
We are a lot closer to electing Trump-like people than this study suggests.
The problem with Trump is that he is loud and slightly crazy. That just does not work well with German post WW2 culture. If somebody calmer would run, that would be a different story though.