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I tried to make it clear that women have a drastically different social experience. It is true, and it would be weird to debate it.
But we have to separate venting from finding solutions. My very point is that we often cannot practically address women's issues without addressing men's ones, and vice versa. Going one by one, you will quickly hit the wall, as men (or women, if we talk about men's issues) just won't be able to do what they're asked for. And instead of accepting that and working together, people tend to assume that the reason the other side doesn't change is because they act in bad faith. This is inherently imbalanced and unworkable.
I see, but the point of the comic is that women don't seem to agree with you and find that way of thinking about it fairly exasperating at times. In many cases there hasn't been a serious attempt to address the issues raised, so claiming that you can't address them without also addressing men's issues would be perhaps a bit premature.
I see where you're coming from, and not gonna debate it further.
Still, to me it looks this division is growing, and hostility is barely ever a good answer. There seemed to be more unity and more decisiveness to approach things together just a few years prior, and I'm not sure what ended it.
I'm sorry to hear what you have experienced. Male abuse victims are not only real and valid, they are more common than people normally think. Every time I see some bullshit like "always a man", I lose my temper a bit.
And for as long as I can, I refuse to allow this echo chamber to exist. Unfortunately, the path of non-intervention does not seem to be helpful to me, as feminists just continue to be boiling in a circlejerk of fear and loathing.
I do not intervene when people speak of their actual negative experiences with certain people, I think it's actively harmful, but when it comes to such general hate messages, this is something I will not tolerate - much like feminists themselves back in the day did not tolerate men being dismissive of them as nothing more than dumb housewives, for example. Because it shouldn't be tolerated and breeds a skewed and dangerous worldview.
With that said, you do you, and with the experience and trauma you have faced, I 100% understand you not wanting to have anything with women you don't already know. I hope you'll have more positive examples around you, though, as most women, as I have experienced, still do not buy this misandric shit at least for the most part, and are not hostile.