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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Five days ago, drag was banned from !politicalmemes@lemmy.world for using neopronouns. A comment explaining drag's pronouns, and a comment saying "drag" isn't a nickname, were removed with the reason "trolling". Drag understands why someone would think that using different pronouns than most people is trolling - transphobia. However, drag is confused how on earth not liking a nickname is a violation of any rules anywhere.

Context of the removed comments:

Drag would like to pre-empt any further accusations of trolling by asking a question: If drag were a right wing troll, and you chose to freely accept drag's pronouns, wouldn't that completely neuter the trolling attempt? Trolling is about trying to make others upset. You don't have to get upset when someone uses unusual pronouns. If you aren't transphobic, then it's impossible to troll you that way. And drag promises: drag wants you to not be transphobic. Drag is not trying to upset anyone. If you do what drag wants you to do, then you get what you want too. This is a non-issue, there's only a problem if you want there to be.

EDIT: DRAG DID NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE DRAG'S PREFERRED PRONOUNS.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And I can't help but see someone who wants to cosplay as a dragon-fucker. What with that literally being in their profile. And then give people shit about it for saying "you" instead of "drag."

I will respect a lot of pronouns. I draw the line at pronouns involving pretending to fuck things that do not exist. If you want to call me a transphobe because of that, I guess I'm a transphobe.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I draw the line at pronouns involving pretending to fuck things that do not exist.

What about fae/faer or ze/zir then? Either way seems a little weird to be the one trying to dictate what other peoples gender is allowed to be.

I will grant that messing with first person pronouns makes language difficult, but language also is meant to be fucked with.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dictating what other people's genders are allowed to be? What about the fact that "drag" intentionally misgendered my daughter in order to harass me?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The irony of posting something like that in this comm is a little much for me

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Irony indeed. Drag has to lie about my daughter's gender to my face in order to keep up this farce and you are aiding.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s also not hard to accept that ‘they’ and ‘you’ applies to everyone regardless of gender. And non-humans. And inanimate objects.

If ‘you’ is good enough for both my mother and a toaster, it’s good enough for them. There is no disrespect.

Drag has to lie about my daughter’s gender to my face in order to keep up this farce and you are aiding.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. Based on their own reasoning. And yours. Not mine. You two both clearly think it’s okay for you to do what you criticize me for.

You’re both hypocrites. Hypocrites attacking a teenager to support each other.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag is literally engaged to marry @HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz but go off

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, I realize you two cosplay together. And I am not going to indulge you or them no matter how much you follow me around and harass me about it.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Drag didn't follow you around or harass you. Drag even typed out a comment about your disagreement with drag, and then thought better and deleted it. Then Draconic NEO pinged you anyway because they wanted you to come argue with drag. If you want to pretend to be upset that you're in this conversation, pretend to be upset at the person who actually pinged you.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

He literally showed you doing all the things you are claiming you didn't do. There's no point in trying to deny it, you're just digging your trench deeper and deeper. Whatever assumption I had before that this was in any way good faith is gone, and it's clear to me you're just a less aggressive, more sleezy/sealiony version of DroneRights, not an alt of them but the same basic type of trolling. It's not working anymore.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, I already bought receipts to prove you're lying, but nice try.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

And this sort of behavior is exactly why you get banned for trolling.