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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


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  1. Mod of !anarchism@slrpnk.net posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
  2. Multiple people point out that’s very clearly not what she meant
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Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @mambabasa@slrpnk.net

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it would be fun if this community had a rule that if the mod comes to the comments to double down, they are banned and their comment is deleted.

I don't think such a rule is necessary. I think the whole conversation we had without you played out fine, and your opinion was already obvious without you needing to weigh in again and start cursing at me. But that rule would be fun.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Providing ideological cover for genocide and promoting anti-anarchism is worth more than what you got, which is just a slap on the wrist. But please, tell me why anarchists should tolerate anti-anarchism, liberalism, and ideological cover for genocide in their space. I'm sure it's enlightening.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Providing ideological cover for genocide and promoting anti-anarchism is worth more than what you got, which is just a slap on the wrist.

Sorry, what did you say? Can you tell me about what type of punishment I should receive?

But please, tell me why anarchists should tolerate anti-anarchism, liberalism, and ideological cover for genocide in their space. I’m sure it’s enlightening.

Because talking with people who don't agree with you is a valuable thing to do.

If I'm wrong, and you take some time to talk with me, maybe I'll absorb what you are saying, and take it on as a good idea. Probably not the first time, but it does happen over time. It's good to be able to talk with other humans. If as soon as I'm wrong, you ban me, then I'll never have that opportunity, and I'll just go on being wrong and getting banned from places, indefinitely.

If you're wrong, or what you're saying is applicable sometimes but it's not a good idea in some other situations, letting me say what I've got to say might show you a new perspective. Or, even if you're completely set in your way, it's still valuable for the people watching the conversation to be able to see both sides expressed, and decide for themselves.

I think it's universally agreed that the places on Reddit and Lemmy that aggressively remove "the wrong viewpoint" are laughingstocks. A lot of the time, they're doing that because they don't have a good answer for questions people are asking or points they're making. You've chosen to make !anarchism@slrpnk.net into one of them, in this one particular instance. Well done.

You've asked over and over why I am supporting genocide. I explained over and over that what I'm saying is an attempt to prevent genocide, and calmly explained how. That pattern eventually starts to sink in, for people watching the conversation, even if it never does for you, and impacts what they take away from the conversation. I think it would be better for you to reassess your way of approaching conversation with people who don't agree with you, but you do you.

See how good this is? We don't agree on things, and we're talking to each other. It's normal, it's healthy. Like I said, if you're insistent on making "your" community into one where that can't happen, that's on you, but I think it's a bad idea.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Anarchism doesn't mean free speech for anti-anarchists. Simple as. We welcome debate and dissent in our ranks, but don't lay down welcome mats for those who hate us and our program. Please tell me why you should feel entitled to soapbox in our space when literally almost every other Lemmy is devoted to the Harris cause? Soapbox somewhere else. I was just taking out the trash.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Power tripping modsism doesn't mean free speech for power tripping mods. We welcome debate and dissent in our ranks, but don't lay down welcome mats for those- You know what? My heart's just not in it. I just don't care.

I never defended Kamala Harris, I just agreed with Greta Thunberg that Trump is so bad that it's an emergency. You were the one that brought the election and talking about the Democrats into an anarchist space, and then threw a fit when someone continued the conversation you started about the election, and quoted your Greta Thunberg post back at you. I clearly don't hate anarchists, I read some of them after talking to people in this non-censored thread, and I had some thoughts but overall I think it's gold. A good way of enabling an anarchist lifestyle sounds really good to me.

You are the one soapboxing in the anarchist space about the election. You are the one who's been talking nonstop about Kamala Harris and the election for highly suspicious reasons.

I think I've said as much on this now as I want to say. I think all you've done by coming and doubling down so hard is to convince people a little more firmly of what the consensus already was before you stopped by.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are you so entitled to soapbox your anti-anarchism, liberalism, electoralism, and ideological cover for genocide in our space when you can shit the floor in literally almost every other Lemmy? Go to those other communities; they'll welcome you. No, you're not entitled to it. Go pound sand.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, what punishment do you think I should have received instead of the slap on the wrist?

Did you ask Kropotkin about it? I feel like he might have had some kind of punishment schedule laid out for what to do when people do things that might harm the movement, but you seem better-educated on all this than I am, so you would know better. Tell me.

[–] Blaze 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 3 weeks ago

I can't stop. It's like a loose tooth. I'm sorry for what I've done, but I'm in too deep now.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am curious, still. What punishment should I have received beyond the slap on the wrist?