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So recently I've been seeing the trend where Android OEMs such as Google, Samsung, etc. have been extending their software release times up to like five, six, and seven years after device release. Clearly, phone hardware has gotten to the point where it can support software for that long, and computers have been in that stage for a very long time. From what I can tell, the only OEM that does this currently might be Fairphone.

Edit: The battery is the thing that goes the fastest so manufacturers could just offer new batteries and that would solve a lot of the problem.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 75 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They could have always supported software for that long. They simply refused to.

There is no benefit to slowing the release cycle. All of the research gets done either way, all of the supply chain modifications get made either way, and as an individual you have no need to replace your phone every year. A multi-year release cycle does very little but screw over people who need a new phone during the wrong point in the release cycle, while also substantially complicating the supply chains by making demand much spikier.

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Conservation wise there is a very big reason to slow down the release cycle

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, there isn't. People who are buying new phones every year are trading them in, and they're going to other people who are more price conscious.

Manufacturing several year old tech results in brand new hardware with a shorter life cycle. You're not going to get 5 or 10 years of updates on a phone that was 5 years behind tech advancement when you bought it.

The people chasing novelty would do so by jumping manufacturers instead, so you don't change their behavior at all.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

And like you said, sometimes you need to replace a phone.

Maybe it was lost, or destroyed.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Compare with the yearly release cycle on cars.

People apparently use installment plans for phone purchases these days, along with a downstream used market, so it's actually a really apt analogy.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That is kind of my thought. Phone technology doesn't change drastically within two years and a car does not change drastically within two years.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

But people are constantly buying millions of both, so makes sense to have small yearly updates and major revisions every few years.

Which is basically how both phones and cars are developed now.

Typically they'll do a major revamp or a clean sheet design of a model, so the 2005 Hoyota Civrolla is a completely new car. The 2006 Civrolla will be available in a few different paint colors and 2 different wheel options. The 2007 model has a different grille so it looks even more like it's smiling while wearing a retainer. The 2008 model has a different washer bottle assembly and the battery tray is now molded plastic instead of stamped steel. The 2008 model is available with a 2.7 liter engine in addition to the 3.6. 2009 they eliminate the base model trim so now they all have power mirrors and cruise control. The 2010 models with CD players can now play mp3s off the CD. 2011 they only sell the 6-speed manual with the 2.7 liter engine, the V6 is only available with an automatic. 2012 they do a major style update, same chassis and running gear, different bodywork and the interior shares more components with the Elamry.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Good points

Edit: Though there was the point in the early to mid-2010s where hardware was improving so rapidly that it would have been infeasible to not replace it as soon as possible.