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Israel brands Palestinian detainees with numbers on their foreheads (www.middleeasteye.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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When Israel re-arrested Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank town of Dura, the detainees faced familiar treatment.

They were blindfolded, handcuffed, insulted and kept in inhumane conditions. More unusual was that each man had a number written on his forehead.

Osama Shaheen, who was released in August after 10 months of administrative detention, told Middle East Eye that soldiers brutally stormed his house, smashing his furniture.

"The soldiers turned us from names into numbers, and every detainee had a number that they used to provoke him during his arrest and call him by number instead of name. To them, we are just numbers."

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 160 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I know a Holocaust survivor who is horrified by everything going on in Israel and Palestine. I also am related to deceased Holocaust survivors and their children, grandchildren, cousins, etc. all seem to think this situation is pretty awesome. They call the Palestinians animals and other terrible things and talk like it's all political and say that people who disagree with them are brainwashed and unintelligent.

I can't be 100% certain, but I think I now understand what it was like to sit at a table with burgeoning Nazis and Nazi-supporters and I'm sad to say that I failed the test. Yes, I argued, I disagreed, and I walked away, but I'm starting to get why everyone didn't just attack the Nazis in Germany. What do you do when you recognize a Nazi but that Nazi helped raise you and didn't seem to be a Nazi until they suddenly doubled down on the wrong choice?

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds really tough man I'm sorry. Thank for you at least sharing your perspective. It's an important perspective to keep in mind. This stuff gets oversimplified, and often, ironically, by disregarding the element of human relationships.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"It's clobberin time"

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know, but when you're in the actual situation then you start asking yourself "am I really gonna hit my 80-something year-old great-aunt?" And you start realizing that the cops are definitely gonna get called and then there's gonna be even more Nazis around you and that the new ones have a trigger-happy reputation.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

I love my mother dearly and would not hesitate to slap her across the face if she called any human an animal. My grandmother I might not hit but I'd certainly cuss out.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Institutionalized segregation always leads to conflict. Nations onlynrecover once they abandon that segregation. Israel and Palestine need to come together into one nation as unrealistic as that might seem.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Remember when they almost achieved peace nearly 30 years ago and then an ultra-Orthodox Jew murdered the Israeli prime minister? He was probably a member of Hamas.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Personally, I’d tell them they’re the ones behaving like animals, and cut all future contact.

Maybe someday they’ll wake up and realize that they’re on the wrong side of history. Or they’ll pass on to the next life and figure it out when they’re not in heaven.