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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Congress has literally said it’s about foreign influence

Which is also a lie. The likes of Twitter, Facebook and Google are just as beholden to foreign governments such as the fascist regimes of India, Israel, Myanmar and others. They pay the people in Congress a lot more in legal bribes, though, so they can basically get away with anything.

It’s not a ban, if China gives up control of the app to a United States entity then there’s no problem.

Imagine the uproar if China demanded that Google stopped being a US military contractor..

What the whole thing is about is empty symbolic rhetoric and xenophobia in an election year and oppressive measures to go with it.

[–] borari@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the uproar if China demanded that Google stopped being a US military contractor.

China is actively demanding that all Chinese companies excise American hardware and software from their technology stacks. They know that they can’t divorce a US tech company headquartered in the US from the US intelligence agencies, so it is the next best option. This is colloquially known in China as “Delete A” or “Delete America”. Who is being xenophobic again?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The difference being that this is about protecting sensitive data like trade secrets, in a complex ecosystem that is impossible to fully oversee. Many western governments have banned Huawei from 5g network components for the same reason and that is solid reasoning.

But with TikTok it is a very different story. Nobody needs to use it. People are using it voluntarily. In regards to steering people to bad content through its algorithm, it is no different from Facebook or Instagram. The argument @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world made is valid.

It is not about preventing foreign or private influence that his harmful to the citizens. It is about controling that influence.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Google was blocked in China in 2014 for refusing to censor search results. Now search results are censored and must go through their Hong Kong subsiduary. The last part is what the US Government is asking for TikTok to do right?

China already bans and censors loads of apps and websites already so I don't think looking at what they do in this instance is a good idea.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it's okay for me to rob you because someone else was robbed by a thief?

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

Okay. Which part of what I written makes you think that? I thought my second paragraph was enough to say China doing things is not a reason to do things.