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Odd, as I had been told Labour were the same as the Tories, yet this seems quite different! Much to consider.
I keep hearing that "all politicians are as bad as each other" so this does not compute.
I might keep doing this every time Labour do anything (unless they do something really Tory, of course).
Is your username in relation to the DnB producer? Or are you them? Or unrelated?
Unrelated. Given the fact that I am a big fan of Star Wars, people often assume it's that but it's actually a reference to Flash Gordon. The nickname predates the Web and so, when it came to pick a username for things I went with that.
It was the combination with the picture that gave me the vibe, since I think he released a few things on the shogun label I thought maybe! Cool username either way.
It's handy because it also covers Star Wars and Warhammer 40k.
They are the same if you have the political instincts of a woodlouse.
"They are all the same, is the battle cry of the politically apathetic, and always has been there's nothing new about it now.
Right but this is an easy win for Starmer. Something very unpopular you can scrap, that is costly, that even if you're a bigot you can recognise isn't working, etc. That's something you can instantly do to create the impression you're very different to the previous party. And the impression, per your comment, is impactful. It really doesn't say much one way or the other about more important policies (e.g. like the Tory cuts that he said pre-election he would not axe).
And yet, even with all you say about the policy being true, the Tories still committed to it over multiple PMs and Home Secretaries, while Labour opposed it at every step and scrapped it at the first opportunity. This does constitute a difference between the two. And even if it's (just) that Labour can tell when something's unpopular, expensive, cruel and doesn't work, that's a positive difference.
They are not simply scrapping and unpopular policy, they're scrapping a policy they criticized from the start, long before it was evident to anyone else whether it would work or not. At the very least does this not demonstrate greater political acumen on Labour's part?