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I'd like to think they're all just Russian trolls but increasingly, I think some people are just selfish or dumb.
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Yeah, because that worked out so well when in 2016 when Trump got elected, the GOP got multiple Supreme Court picks, multiple federal judges were given life terms, and Roe vs Wade got struck down. Let's see how that plays out when Ukraine falls, war breaks out in Europe, America becomes a theocratic dictatorship, and what little progress we may have seen with the environment completely falls apart and the world goes full tilt towards becoming an uninhabitable hellscape. Whatever the protest was about will be utterly meaningless.
If you want to protest, you protest AFTER you get sympathetic ears into office, not after you get the opposition elected. Trump gets in, then suddenly he'll give you plenty to protest about, vs protesting when Harris is in office and she actually has a willingness to listen to protests and meet their demands.
This is exactly why the railroad strike failed lmao.
Even UAW's future strike plan is May 1, 2028, which is strategically a presidential election year, 5 months before the election.
The UAW struck after the railroad strike. And got Biden to personally come down to ask the what he could do to secure their vote. Both happened while Biden was in office. What are you even saying about why the railroad strike failed?
Biden signs bill to block U.S. railroad strike
Oh wow a link with absolutely no context or synopsis!
I guess the synopsis can be "Unions approve of Bidens handling of railway strike."
Okay? And by the end of the following year, the UAW had struck and used their explicit statement that they were not yet committed to endorsing a candidate for president that Biden came down to the picket lines himself to picket in support of the UAW, which helped them get landmark contract deals.
UAW says they might not endorse Biden Biden goes to the picket line UAW gets historic deals
If you're that dialed in to the railroad strike this long after the fact, you are absolutely aware that Biden helped get the unions their biggest demands shortly after ending the strike.
Get your bad faith soundbite bullshit out of here.
At no point has a protest pushed any president left, regardless of party.
That is an insane statement. The civil rights era was full of protests and change. The Vietnam War ended because of protests. There are many instances of protests pushing presidents left.
We forgot how to protest didn't we?
Turns out when the rich and powerful set out to hamstring the ability of people to organize in the workplace, and spend a lot of time covertly policing political orgs they don't agree with, well, people fall out of practice in being part of a community and organizing that community. If you then make every place that someone might want to build communities with other a place to extract money from, it's real hard to build it all from scratch.
Yeah it wasn't the protests, but the threat and follow through of violence
Sure. Those went with the protests. Protests aren't all peaceful, hence why "peaceful protest" is a term.