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Alternative email? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 weeks ago by UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

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Sorry if I'm the millionth to ask this, but what are some good trustworthy email providers? Even if paid. But if I'm paying it'd best if it's privacy focused. Thanks!

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[–] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

It looks way to much like big corp. And money corrupts. Why do I get a calendar, a vaul, a vpn, and a mail service for free. I know it's limited services, but for free? I feel like I must be the product.

I get when it's a non-profit, or living off donations, but Proton is either of those

[–] asap@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

money corrupts

This is exactly the reason that Proton became a non-profit:

https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation

Swiss foundations and their board of trustees are legally obligated to act in accordance with the purpose for which they were established, which, in this case, is to defend Proton’s original mission. As the largest voting shareholder of Proton, no change of control can occur without the consent of the foundation, allowing it to block hostile takeovers of Proton, thereby ensuring permanent adherence to the mission.

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Proton is still a for-profit company. However, there is now the non-profit Proton Foundation that is the largest shareholder of the Proton company (not necessarily majority shareholder).

Plus, non-profits are not guaranteed to be positive. See OpenAI for example.

Edit: Grammar

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 weeks ago

I don't think the free accounts cost them a whole lot. You only get 1GB of mail space, and the free versions have minimal features (e.g. you can only create one email filter). They make their money on paid accounts, which seems legit to me.

[–] TMKI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, the Proton Foundation is a non-profit and is the majority shareholder of Proton.

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 3 points 4 weeks ago

The foundation is the largest shareholder, but Proton has not specified whether it controls a majority.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago

That's fair. Though the free service is more of an infinite trial tbh