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Secret Documents Show Hamas Tried to Persuade Iran to Join Its Oct. 7 Attack (www.nytimes.com)

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The Times reviewed the minutes of 10 meetings among Hamas’s top leaders. The records show the militant group avoided several escalations since 2021 to falsely imply it had been deterred — while seeking Iranian support for a major attack.

Minutes of Hamas’s secret meetings, seized by the Israeli military and obtained by The New York Times, provide a detailed record of the planning for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack, as well as Mr. Sinwar’s determination to persuade Hamas’s allies, Iran and Hezbollah, to join the assault or at least commit to a broader fight with Israel if Hamas staged a surprise cross-border raid.

The documents, which represent a breakthrough in understanding Hamas, also show extensive efforts to deceive Israel about its intentions as the group laid the groundwork for a bold assault and a regional conflagration that Mr. Sinwar hoped would cause Israel to “collapse.”

The documents consist of minutes from 10 secret planning meetings of a small group of Hamas political and military leaders in the run-up to the attack, on Oct. 7, 2023. The minutes include 30 pages of previously undisclosed details about the way Hamas’s leadership works and the preparations that went into its attack.

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[–] Saleh 8 points 1 month ago

The jpost article showed Israeli officials forging and then leaking fake Hamas documents to spread misinformation. We have seen many such propaganda efforts, like the bullshit animation of the alleged tunnel system, or the video claiming a simple calender to be some terrorist schedule.

You misinterpret what the NY Times article claimes and what the UN investigation concluded. The NY Times article claimed widespread sexual violence and the sexual violence being an integral part of the strategy of Hamas for 07. October. The UN report concluded that there is evidence of sexual violence, but that it is not possible to determine it to be part of a deliberate strategy.

This is a very important distinction to make. Especially as Israel used this claim as "proof" how barbaric Palestinians would ne to justify their countless massacres and war crimes. There is no doubt that sexual violence did occur, but the NY Times and their intelligence asset deliberately blew it way out of proportion and made ridiculous claims off on it, in order to keep the support for Israels onslaught on Gaza high.

When i opened the article it stopped after "prelude to war". I didnt see the rest to be cut off.

With the description of some of the details being confirmed as well as the general structure, that still has limited use, without knowing ehich details. If the meetings and resulting letters with Hezbollah/Iran are confirmed, that is strong evidence. If it is just confirmation that they do keep notes and meet regularly, that is something everyone should know.

As for the IDF report "obtained" by the NYT we are back to square one. The IDF deliberately makes forged leaks to media outlets to spread misinformation. This is also th be expected from any serious army, but with this particular army we have a lot of recent evidence of the practice.