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[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most Poles will probably support it. Tusk similar to other liberals only has to be scratched to show their true nature but nobody was really deceived.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Waah waah those bad libruls. No shit Poles will support it - Belarus is literally flying in thousands of people and pushing them towards the border. When that happens to your country, we'll see how open it will be to "asylum seekers". The thing is literally done to create conflict by people like you who don't know the situation that's happening over there and only read the headlines.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are perfectly capable of processing couple thousands of asylum requests. No papers? Go away. But you have to be allowed to make the request and that hasn’t been possible for years. It’s basic human compassion and Christian values.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Go away where exactly? Explain that part to me. Belarus doesn't take them back, they force them on Poland. So now you have a ton of people with no papers, no history, nowhere to go. The period in Europe where "human compassion" and "christian values" ruined countries is over. Poland has no obligation to allow anyone to enter, especially not people forced on us.

You live in the real world, not a utopia where everyone is happy and cuddly and a great neighbor. Poland borders two hostile nations that would love to see it fall. That's why Poland supports Ukraine so hard, that's why Poland is preparing for war. This situation is created by Russia to attack Poland, so it's on Russia to stop what it is doing, not on Poland to stop defending itself.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is not „this or this”. Poland is 20th largest economy in the world, we can take couple thousand asylum seekers because we just took two million. If someone wants to abuse our good will then, and only then, we can throw it into jail so bad they’ll want to return home. Nobody comes here for social welfare because we have almost none so why are you so afraid?

If you think human compassion ruins us then you want us to became as our enemies are and we’ve already lost.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no point in talking to you - you ignore 100% of the issues that are there and go for an emotional "oh ur evulll". Someone already wants to "abuse our good will" - that's Russia literally pushing people at the border. Poland doesn't need to put anyone in jail - they need to be stopped on the other side of the border. You still haven't explained how are you going to identify, extradite people comming from a hostile country, without papers. Nobody is afraid - because what is happening is what needs to happen. So take your "human compassion" and put it where it belongs - in your perfect imaginary world. For the rest of us living on Earth, measures need to be taken to protect the border.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why are you so scared? I know you’re downvoting me because you don’t like what you hear but did anyone hurt you or is it just irrational fear of people who you’ve never met? You don’t address my points but keep repeating I’m naive. How naive are you to fall for what populist right is feeding you?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great job not touching on anything I said, defaulting to "ur evill" "ur scareeed" and then going "you don't address my points". Great job projecting. I'm done talking with you.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -4 points 1 month ago

You were done talking to me a comment before but you can’t stop mocking me because you have nothing of substance to say and don’t want to appear as the one who’s been duped.