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Hello World,

we know one of the most important indicators of comment and post community interest is votes. Beyond that, reports help to regulate comments and posts that go beyond down-votes and into the rule-breaking territory.

Unfortunately, Lemmy's current reporting system has some shortcomings. Here are a few key technical points that everyone should be aware of:

  • Reports are NOT always visible to remote moderators. (See Full reports federation ยท Issue #4744 ยท LemmyNet/lemmy ยท GitHub)
  • Resolving reports on a remote instance does not federate if the content isn't removed.
  • Removal only resolves reports in some cases, e.g. individual content removal. Some people remove individual content before banning the user, especially when the ban is with content removal, as individual content removals resolve reports on all instances. Bans with the remove content checkbox selected will not currently resolve reports automatically.

Our moderators are also volunteers with other demands on their time: work gets busy, people take vacations, and life outside of Lemmy goes on. But that doesn't mean content that causes distress to users should stick around any longer than reasonable. Harmful content impacts both Lemmy.world users AND users of all other instances as well. We always strive to be good neighbors.

While the devs work on the technical issues, we can work to improve the human side of things. To help keep the reports queue manageable and help reports be resolved in a REASONABLE amount of time we will be enabling global notifications for all stale reports. Open reports older than 1 day will trigger a notification for 1 week every 2 days so as not to overwhelm community moderators endlessly. If a community moderator does not wish to receive these reports, they may simply block the bot, but we still expect them to address unresolved reports.

We expect that this feature will eventually be removed once Lemmy has a better reporting system in place.

As an aside, we recommend that all LW communities have at least two moderators so there is some redundancy in resolving reports themselves, and to reduce the workload on individual moderators. We know this can be harder for smaller communities, but this is just a recommendation.

We recommend that moderators have alt accounts on Lemmy.world to resolve reports that are from federated instances.

As always feedback is welcome. This is an active project which we really hope will benefit the community. Please feel free to reply to this thread with comments, improvements, and concerns.

Thanks!

FHF / LemmyWorld Admin team ๐Ÿ’–

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We recommend using the Photon front-end for adding mods to your community.

With the standard lemmy-ui, additional mods can only be appointed if the account has made a post or comment in the community.

Photon (https://p.lemmy.world) does not have this limitation. You can use the community sidebar, click Gear (settings) icon, then click the Team tab, and add any user as a mod.

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[โ€“] Asudox@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The upcoming v20.0 lemmy release should fix remote moderators not receiving almost all of the reports.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

Then I'll be able to moderate !asklemmy@lemmy.world actively from my programmings.dev account and finally abandon this account for the time being.

[โ€“] Blaze 3 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't completely disregard remote moderators breaking again at some point again in the future, but you do you ๐Ÿ˜„

[โ€“] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would also require world to update lol

[โ€“] Asudox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you implying that world won't update? You'd be wrong.

[โ€“] Blaze 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They are teasing about LW's longer updates timeframes.

They are the last instance in the top 20 (by monthly active users) still using 0.19.3 with Beehaw: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

[โ€“] Asudox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sure the LW admins explained why they didn't upgrade to 0.19.5 and that they were waiting for 0.19.6.

[โ€“] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly wondering if they'll update at all while waiting for sublinks which is totally ready any day now

[โ€“] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we aren't holding back on lemmy updates due to sublinks.

[โ€“] Blaze 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying, I don't know why goferking thought that

[โ€“] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe I was thinking of beehaw. Some admin was saying it was going to be out any day now before summer started

[โ€“] Blaze 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably Beehaw indeed. Beehaw might want to reconsider switching to Piefed or Mbin, it's pretty clear now that Sublinks won't be there any time soon

[โ€“] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably would help those projects out more if the devs of sublinks went there too

[โ€“] Blaze 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Different languages, not that easy to go from one to another

[โ€“] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Still would be better effort spent learning them than sublinks