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I've seen around 3 occasions of that this week, altho I have never seen anything like it before.

if I remember correctly they were:

  • smack talking a mod (FlyingSquid) for saying not to report the same comment twice, when they were different comments, and the report was spam
  • someone comparing .world with .ml in politics (as in there was a comment saying "this post will be overrun with .ml people, and then a comment going "but you are from .world") (Maybe Im part of the problem? I have been called out for being a fascist because I questioned the "puching nazis" theme)
  • one more which I can't remember.

Anyways, what is all that about? Are people really starting to hate on 50% of the lemmy population because of their instance?

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[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Communists? Really? There is quite a gap between being leftist (which in itself is a term that generalizes multiple ideological position and political views. Look to my home country Denmark and see how many left leaning parties exists. None of them are Communists btw). Sorry if this comes off as arrogant, but are you from the US? I ask because I often see US citizen use this overgeneralization and seem lack knowledge on the difference between e.g. socialism and communism.

[–] SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Lemmy's two main developers are communists so it's a "platform built by Communists" just like @Cowbee@lemmy.ml said.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, I've read over 2 dozen books on Marxism, you can check my comment history if you want. The lead developers of Lemmy are Communists.

Also, the Nordics are Social Democracies, not Socialist.

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry for the confusion regarding socialist and social democracies. Will have to look more into the difference between the two. Thanks for clearing that up.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

No worries!

Essentially, Social Democracy is a Capitalist system with larger social safety nets, usually as a concession to prevent revolution. Marxist criticism of Social Democracy is that the Nordics, for example, fund their safety nets via brutal exploitation of the global south, and see sliding worker protections and eroding safety nets, because the bourgeoisie is still in control.

Socialism is, generally, a transitional state to Communism. Socialism is categorized by public ownership and central planning of industry as the primary mechanism of the economy (in Marxist terms, there are other forms of socialized production that aren't marxist, like cooperatives). Examples of Actually Existing Socialist (AES) states include the PRC, USSR (pre-dissolution, obviously), Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, etc.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Look to my home country Denmark and see how many left leaning parties exists. None of them are Communists btw

Western bloc countries purged their governments of explicitly communist parties back in the 50s and 60s, during the hottest years of the Cold War. The parties that formed in their wake had many of the same ideological inclinations operating under different monikers. So you've got Red–Green Alliance and more left-leaning voices in the Social Democrats talking about public housing and land reform and a worker-lead democracy, just like explicit Communists in Cuba and Vietnam and South Africa and Korea and India were seventy years ago.

Similarly, "conservative" parties organized under UKIP, National Front, FDL, or the AfD espousing all the same racist, ultra-nationalist, imperial expansionist views common to 1930s European fascists. None of this shit is new in the material sense. It's just fresh paint on the old frame.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I think there is like one party in Folketinget that is even slightly left, Enhedslisten.