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I've seen around 3 occasions of that this week, altho I have never seen anything like it before.

if I remember correctly they were:

  • smack talking a mod (FlyingSquid) for saying not to report the same comment twice, when they were different comments, and the report was spam
  • someone comparing .world with .ml in politics (as in there was a comment saying "this post will be overrun with .ml people, and then a comment going "but you are from .world") (Maybe Im part of the problem? I have been called out for being a fascist because I questioned the "puching nazis" theme)
  • one more which I can't remember.

Anyways, what is all that about? Are people really starting to hate on 50% of the lemmy population because of their instance?

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 78 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's a battle of political ideologies.

ml is administered by the creators of Lemmy, they are openly socialist/communist/tankie depending on your own ideology, ml was chosen to represent Marxism-Leninism, and so the people it attracted are generally also adhering to this kind of ideologies.
.world was created for Redditors exile, as such, it is mostly center-left to social democrat.

Political extremists tend to extremise everything, typically a tankie will call you a Nazi/fascist if you disagree with them. That's one of your answer.

Secondly, some ml people are frustrated that Lemmy is not their own little thing anymore for them and their friends, as world is the biggest instance now by far. So they show some kind of instance-xenophobia, not much different from the Great Replacement theory: "we are being culturally replaced through mass migration".

Not all .ml people are like that of course. In my experience, it is enough to block a few tankies to get back to civilized discussions.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I have had way more issues with .ml communities than .world

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (24 children)

ML was basically designed to be an echo chamber, it’s right there in the name.

[–] noisefree@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

ML ~~was~~ is basically ~~designed~~ moderated to be an echo chamber, it’s right there in the name.

FTFY (though, I'm mostly being sarcastic here - like most things, moderation there is a mixed bag from community to community).

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Everyone has. That place is a toxic shithole.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean... a toxic shithole? Really??

I think of it as more of a cancerous shithole.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A toxic, cancerous shithole of vapid pissfarts incessantly salivating on themselves while climbing over one another to be top edgelord in a community that will eternally fail to produce anything remotely resembling neither edge, nor lords.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’ve yet to see anyone in .world ban someone simply for having a political affiliation. The tankie communities flat-out ban for being “liberal.”

Granted, it’s been a while since I e seen this happen, the admins/mods there do not hide their bias.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I made the mistake of being an anarchist on ml and hexbear.

Waay, waaaaaay too many tankies getting insanely pissed off and swarm when you criticize (point out obvious facts, really) any non US/Western countries or allies along anarchist lines.

It rapidly devolves into idpol, rants and tirades that are barely related to the topic or comment, Fox News style 'I'm just asking questions in good faith' which are obviously not in good faith if you're older than maybe 10.

I dare someone to go ml or grad or hex and attempt to have a serious and thorough conversation about the Sino-Vietnamese war. Or Uighurs. Or the Holodomor. Or whether the concept of self-determination applies to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Palestine at the same time.

I remember at one point explaining a meme that popped up on some China's social media site that boiled down to 'Deng Xiaoping's reforms have led to Chinese women craving giant Black cocks', and all of them being just fine with incels and racism when its not Westerners doing it.

Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have 'communists' arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin. Although that is more rare, it does happen.

EDIT: Its somewhat sad, as it is great fun when everyone is dogpiling on some new latest insane western neocolonialism or corporate incompetence/hellscape type stuff, but I treat those places like Ravenholm:

We don't go there anymore.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Please show any sources for this garbage, these are all bannable offenses on Grad, Hexbear, and .ml.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have ‘communists’ arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin. Although that is more rare, it does happen.

If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

The culture where these sorts of blatant lies are accepted without question is my biggest problem with .world. You can have whatever actual beliefs you want, but lying like this is really despicable.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or whether the concept of self-determination applies to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Palestine at the same time.

That's the hypocrisy that pisses me off the most. I don't know how someone can support resistance by any means for Palestinians but seriously suggest Ukrainians are nazis for resisting an imperialist invasion.

PS: there's at least 2 anarchist instances on Lemmy 😉

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Slightly off topic, is db0 one of the anarchist instances you're referring to? I know it's a generally leftist instance, but don't know much more detail than that

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's my instance :) it's run by anarchists and has an anarchist CoC and general vibe. slrpnk is the second.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm such a dunce, I didn't spot your username 🤦

Thought I was asking a db0 random, not the NaN himself

I like db0 because it reminds of how cool the 'you wouldn't download a car' commercials made piracy look. They were right, it is cool.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have ‘communists’ arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin

That's an instaban from hb, grad, and .ml, did you report that post?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

I've seen bans there for Calling out horseshoe theory. As if it's a slur

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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

Oh people have tried I'm sure. They are banned now.:-)

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. The "Eat Ass" vs the "No Eat Ass" culture war is getting out of hand.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not against eating ass, but it depends who's ass it is.

First off, I'm only eating female ass. Secondly, she's gotta be above 25 years old...and even that's kinda young. Thirdly, she's gotta shower well. I want that butthole to be CLEAN! And lastly, I gotta love her. I'm not just gonna go out on a first date at The Olive Garden, and then go home to her place and start eating ass! Hey, how'dya do? MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH!!! No, I have to have a connection to her.

So I'm not "No Eat Ass", but I'm not 100% pro "Eat Ass" either. But I guess you guys would just call me a centrist, and I'd get attacked from both sides for not being far enough on their side.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

I first ate my partner’s ass after dancing at a rave for hours, at 2AM, on copious amounts of MDMA, no shower.

I’m undoubtedly Team Eat Ass.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Brother (I assume you're a male, but it doesn't matter either way,) you do you. If it's consensual with an adult, like you state, it's all good.

I, on the other hand, am not going to put my mouth where literal shit excretes. Even if it's had 3 enemas through it. But I will linger elsewhere. All the best.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean.......which flavor are the enemas?

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Look at what this country has come to!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

“Nazis” flooding lemmy to replace the poor tankies (c. 2023):

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