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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

ETA: someone suggested SearXNG and after using it a bit it seems to be much better compared to ddg and the rest.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Having to signup and login to a search engines sounds like an annoying hassle

[–] aMockTie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

It's a very minor annoyance and well worth it in my opinion.

I was searching for a book quote for over a year. I tried every search engine, tried changing the terms, checking back several times every few weeks or so, but couldn't find anything even close. I tried kagi and it was literally the very first result on my very first search.

I haven't looked back and have never had an issue finding what I'm searching for since.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 month ago

You pay instead of seeing ads, so they need the account. Remembers you, though, so you just login once. Plus they have a solution for incognito/private windows too.

I really like it, has some cool features.

[–] hannesh93 8 points 1 month ago

You can create a search-link that includes your token so you can also use it in incognito or if you are logged out for some reason.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You do it once.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Signing up and logging in isn't a problem imo. I wouldn't even mind if I had to pay for searches, but I'm not going to make it a subscription service. Unless they add an option to do something like buy 1000 searches that never expire, its not something I'd considered. I do think they beat out competitors like google with their results pretty consistently though based on the trial.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna subscription my heated car seats but search is a service that costs an ongoing amount to provide. The subscription isn't significant, it's $5 a month for 300 searches (or $10 for unlimited).

I know we've been conditioned to expect search for free, but if we want to get away from the "the user is the product" model then I think it's a good thing to have a subscription to a service that has ongoing costs to provide.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Up to 300 searches. I'm not asking for free. Just for it to not be a subscription. Just sell me 300 searches.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 month ago

Ah right, I get you. I wonder if they have considered this. Pretty sure their free/demo tier is 100 searches not confined to a time period so presumably the platform could handle that model.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes but then how do they get that sweet sweet recurring revenue

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By having a good product, so people want to use it and need to top-up on new searches regularly as a result?

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Hmm, perhaps. But…recurring revenue sure is easier than…whatever you said.

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

It is. And it's also terrible for privacy, but people do it with google as well.