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The United States has spent a record of at least $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since the war in Gaza began and led to escalating conflict around the Middle East, according to a report for Brown University’s Costs of War project, released on the anniversary of Hamas’ attacks on Israel.

An additional $4.86 billion has gone into stepped-up U.S. military operations in the region since the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, researchers said in findings first provided to The Associated Press. That includes the costs of a Navy-led campaign to quell strikes on commercial shipping by Yemen’s Houthis, who are carrying them out in solidarity with the fellow Iranian-backed group Hamas.

The report — completed before Israel opened a second front, this one against Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon, in late September — is one of the first tallies of estimated U.S. costs as the Biden administration backs Israel in its conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon and seeks to contain hostilities by Iran-allied armed groups in the region.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that the people who are single issue voters in this situation are in the age bracket that doesn't vote no matter how much politicians cater to their wants and needs

That's a popular myth but it's just not true.

First of all, young people DO vote when they have something to vote FOR in stead of only something to vote against.

For example, the Kansas ballot measure that failed to make abortion illegal in the state had more young women voting than men of all ages combined.

It's very convenient for center right to right wing establishment Democrats and their friends in the media to say "they don't vote, so we might as well ignore them" (quiet part: "in favor of our rich donors"), but in reality some of them don't vote because all of them are ignored.

Second, it's not only 18 to 20-something Gen Z voters that are overwhelmingly and vehemently opposed to the genocide and US participation in it. It's also millennials. Combined, those two groups are every voter from 18 to 40-something. Do you REALLY think the Dems can afford to ignore everyone under 50?

and that's proven by other countries as well (where there's more parties to vote for).

Nope. In countries with fewer barriers to voting and enough choices that they don't have to vote for the lesser evil every time, young voters vote as much as any age group except 60/65+

As well, there's a higher % of Israel supporters in the 65+ group (...) than Palestine supporters in the 18-35 group

Yeah, I highly doubt it.. Also, as I previously pointed out, the eldest millennials are in their 40s and overwhelmingly anti genocide and anti apartheid.

so let's say Harris comes out and says "We'll stop sending weapons to Israel", she very well could be handing the keys to the White House to Trump,

On the contrary. NOT doing that or anything in that direction is what could hand it to Trump.

which will send even more weapons to them AND will stop helping Ukraine AND will directly and indirectly lead to thousands of deaths locally (migrants, LGBTQ+, minorities...)

You don't have to sell me on Trump being much worse. I was clear about knowing that in my first comment.

Which is, apart from the fact that it's morally repugnant, why I'm protesting the disastrous pro-Israel stance of the white house and the Harris campaign.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My man, I'm in Canada, young people have options, a minority of them vote. In France they vote less than other groups and a minority votes during the legislatives. A minority in the UK as well. It's also historically true looking back

If people reliably don't vote even If it means things being worse for them and even if they have options then what do they expect politicians to do?

"I highly doubt it", that's the thing, I've researched what I'm saying, you haven't

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/02/younger-americans-stand-out-in-their-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My data is from StatsCan, who I trust more than your source.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So we agree to disagree then.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago

What?

You're going to pretend that Election Canada isn't the best source for Election related statistics? What kind of Mickey Mouse logic is that?