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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is probably more of a symptom than a cause, but social media platforms pushing manosphere content isn't helping.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wasn't paying attention for like 2 seconds and it went from "Men also have rights" to "Andrew Tate is a role model", like WTF internet, stop ruining good things, fuck.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, "Men's Rights" was a bait and switch. The Alpha/Sigma ideology says there can only ever be a handful of "True Men" worthy of human rights. Everyone else has to either prove themselves through combat or submit to being less than human.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's not a bait and switch, there real issues in how we're failing boys and men are surely contributing to this concerning trend.

Especially when we blame the victims.

These "True Men" ass holes are simply swooping in to prey on the young men who've been left behind, like any cult leader would.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

real issues in how we’re failing boys and men

Only the poor ones. You know, the "betas".

These “True Men” ass holes are simply swooping in to prey on the young men who’ve been left behind

They're driving the disparity. Artificially constricting the demand for labor in order to drive down wages. Privatizing public services to squeeze working people for their last dime. Bombarding audiences with FUD in order to get them to blame every conceivable external agent - illegal migrants, evil foreign governments, spies, terrorists, literal fucking space aliens - so that the public is in a constant state of anxiety and exhaustion. Busting unions. Busting street protests. Busting college campuses. Corrupting the foundations of the political system to shield themselves from accountability for their shady actions. Then dumping vast fortunes into policing and the military in order to unleash wave upon wave of violence on working class communities.

At the forefront of all of these moves are "Alpha" men. People who believe themselves entitled to enormous wealth and social privilege, extracting at the expense of the rest of us. Its only after we've been ravaged that we see the lackeys and sycophants of these self-entitled paymasters step back in to recruit for the next generation of gladiatorial fighters, street cops, and foreign mercenaries.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Alpha/Sigma ideology

I remember when that was just a category of porn writing 😞

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

But people need to make money. Internet will stop being ruined when it stops being monitized.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

Shock value gets upvotes and downvotes.

There was a famous radical feminist from decades ago who argued all men should be killed. I don’t think she was relevant during twitter or in the recent internet… if she had been, idk 🤷‍♂️

I think the problem with some of these issues is that there are academic theories that are being discussed, which end up getting reduced by non academics and applied to specific individuals.

In the men’s rights forums it becomes men and boys are being left behind, this gets turned into pointing at a specific woman and blaming her.

Likewise in feminist ideology there is the idea of the patriarchy, this gets turned into some people pointing fingers at specific men and blaming them.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

I recon its both, looks like the symptom makes the cause more potent makes the symptoms worse.