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Citation needed. I get that it's healthy not to trust anyone, but with the amount of security research that goes into these devices if something like that was happening then we would know about it.
https://www.darkreading.com/cyber-risk/can-the-nsa-really-track-turned-off-cellphones-
https://fossbytes.com/edward-snowden-explains-how-smartphones-spy-on-us/
https://www.csoonline.com/article/540662/privacy-some-samsung-galaxy-devices-contain-a-file-access-backdoor-replicant-developers-say.html
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/fix-for-critical-qualcomm-chip-flaw-is-making-its-way-to-android-devices/
So a few interesting points, but nothing even slightly like what OP was suggesting.
I don't consider that a reasonable solution for most people, and there are many posts claiming those almost never work well enough. You could also make the argument that it shouldn't be necessary in the first place.
I don't think it matters to most people, as you are still tracked by having the phone physically with you, which is what people are against.
Are you suggesting Samsung phones should have ever been allowed to spy on people? Or that this doesn't highlight a bigger issue? I don't see why this should get a pass at all.
I think it's very much a real threat, and leaked docs show world governments and bad actors actively use such exploits routinely for years, including keeping previously unknown exploits a secret to use for themselves.
I understand your desire to turn talking points into nothingburgers but I feel like this is not only disingenuous but against the entire principal of security and privacy. Of course we all have our own individual threat models, but to dismiss another person's model because you think it shouldn't matter to anyone, doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Look, I'm not trying to say there aren't real security/privacy issues that aren't being exploited right now, my citation needed was regarding this comment:
The articles you linked are real issues that have been documented, OP was arguing that Google phones specifically are bad because of this statement they pulled out of their arse.