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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it's an "escalation" and retaliation for something else entirely.

You realize this fits the exact outline I've laid out? Anything to avoid pointing out Israel has invaded the sovereign territory of another country.

And no. I haven't moved any goalposts.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You realize this fits the exact outline I’ve laid out?

Your main claims were the all of the headlines "about how scary Iran is" (the fact that it was a headline about Israel escalating and Israel vowing repercussions) and "many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel" (and the short story in NPR was about why they were retaliating). It directly contradicts it, using one of the most popular and prominent US news organizations.

And no. I haven’t moved any goalposts.

Your original argument was that there were no headlines, which the other poster challenged. . .you then went not to say that the stories didn't give information about why they retaliated. It's absolutely a clear case of moving the goal posts.

Attempting to gaslighting me won't work, sorry. We've had too many interactions before for me not to be on the lookout for disingenuous positions.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not gaslighting, it's two people talking about the news environment they experienced yesterday morning. You're the one trying to make it awkward and accusing people of operating in bad faith. I know what I saw and you're not going to bully me into having seen what you say was there.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made two major claims, in defense of the meme: all the headlines are about how scary Iran is (I demonstrated this to be incorrect), and that none of the brief stories explained why Iran retaliated (I demonstrated this to be incorrect). Your response should have been "wow, I guess I was wrong" instead of what it was (effectively) "the proof you just provided that obviously prove my claims incorrect actually is exactly what I said." This is straight up gaslighting.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How nice of you to put words in my mouth. I don't need them though, I have plenty of my own. Go harass someone else.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You responded to me first and now you're claiming I'm harassing you? Holy shit, does the gaslighting know no depths? Lol

But good on your for avoiding all the points. If ever you want to actually address them, feel free. I'll be here.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I responded because you entered the conversation to shit talk me.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago

And still avoiding the point. Amazing.