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Problem is that most of your anti-gun folk aren't crazy, or don't want to appear as such, and so they placate the defenders of gun rights with phrases resembling "I believe we should be able to have handguns because self defense buuuuuut nobody should have semi auto rifles." Of course, the second they do ban long guns (curbing a total of 500/60,000 gun deaths a year mind you), they'll switch to "oh well clearly that didn't work so now we're taking the handguns too." It's literally by design, simply a tactic to fool those who won't bother looking into that whole "only 500 killed with long guns/yr" stat, nor the fact that 5.56 only delivers about as much energy as a hot .357mag rnd, but the Barrett .50BMG which is bolt action and therefore totally fine delivers about 10,000 more ft-lbs of energy, etc.
Besides that, the 2a protects things "in common use" according to Heller and "must have a historical precedent for bans," according to Bruen therefore handguns do fall quite under the scope of the 2a and a ban would be ruled unconstitutional immediately.
Besides that, self defense is important, and unless you suggest people start open carrying ARs, the best way to do it is to CCW a compact 9mm handgun.
Furthermore "guns shouldn't be for the poor" would help to curb crime, but at what cost? That is pure T bona-fide classism and I don't support it, personally.