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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The fight for gay marriage was/is about the benefits afforded by the state to legally married couples.

Which is absolutely privilege because single people don't get those same tax breaks.

[–] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depending on your situation, being married could actually mean you pay more in taxes.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My wife and I pay more taxes because we are married without children. If we were not married and filed as singles, our tax burden would be much less. But IDK really, mostly because I enjoy living in a working society and that means paying taxes.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm certainly not a tax expert, but I think you can both file separately. That's what my ex and I did back when we were married.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Our wages are not really equal and when we tried to separate it all to file separately, any benefit only helps one of us at the expense of the other.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All tax benefits, from marriage tax deductions to corporate tax elimination, is the government picking and choosing which behaviors it wants to encourage.

That's why conservatives didn't want gay people to get married because they saw it as government endorsement of their behavior, and not the government recognizing equal rights.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Public equality and public liberty are the responsibility and purview of government. If they are not, we can't really have government by consent. Instead we have hegemony in which the lower strata are governed by force.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Time for a sham marriage ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ

[–] Johanno 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well in my country there are tax privileges for married couples. The goal of those privileges is to increase the amount of children in the country.

Same sex marriages are now officially recognised by the state, but do not get any tax privileges.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

That still sounds like discrimination to me. Same sex couples still have the ability to adopt, use IVF with a donor, use a surrogate, etc. All of these encourage raising children, but they're ineligible for benefits because they aren't a hetero couple?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You see, I'm on board with that logic right up until there are childless hetero couples. I think if a gay couple plans to adopt they should get the exact same privileges.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe a marriage only gets the tax break if they prove they are raising a child. Otherwise straight childless marriages still benefit from the tax break while childless gay marriages do not. If more kids are the goal, make kids the deciding factor for the tax break.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is then hard on the hetero couples who want a child but can't make one. But then again I suppose they have the adoption route open to them also.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They would have all the same options a homosexual couple has