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[–] philo@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Missouri speaks for the entire US now?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US can be judged by the actions of any single state. It's all the same country πŸ™„

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The fact that the US federal government has the power to outlaw this but doesn't, that this specific execution was brought before the Supreme Court and they voted against blocking it 6–3, and the fact that the majority of US states (27) and the federal government have this on the books speak for the US now, yes.

Taken to an absurd extreme, let's imagine that the US federal government and 27 of its states explicitly had statutes on the books stating "you can legally rape puppies", and you stepping in and saying "Well that doesn't speak for the entire US! Stop trying to make it sound like everyone condones puppy rape just because Missouri allows it!" Would you say that then? Because I feel like any rational person would be asking "Why does the US allow this to happen?" If not, why would you say it here? The US is simply backwards in this regard.

Sure, we'll pretend that this hasn't been happening here for hundreds of years across all 50 states.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] philo@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually SCOTUS speaks for Trump since he was the POS that installed them.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The people are responsible for who they elect and the actions they take. So millions of people in the US are to blame for this even if they aren't a majority thanks to how elections work in the US since Clinton won the popular vote.

[–] philo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clinton was well over 30 years ago. Please join us in the present.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

SCOTUS appointments are for life. The 70 million or so who voted for him will be responsible even after their death of many of them.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

you're getting gish galloped i think. this other person is just gonna keep pulling you further and further from the actual problem, which is that this problem is not unique to just one state and requires systemic change throughout the nation to fix

[–] philo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does 70 million translate into one state speaking for the entire country of 330 million?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe you aren’t meant to understand it

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Missouri isn't so different from everywhere else

[–] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've spent a lifetime traveling the united states. i originate from Appalachia. bad and racist judgements come all across the country. any state with the death penalty on the books will eventually do this, and any state that doesn't have the death penalty on the books has around 30% of people minimum who think it should be. you're deluding yourself if you don't think everywhere is like everywhere else just with different ratios of who is around

[–] philo@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This would also mean California is like Alabama which is like New York which going even farther because borders are man-made, exactly like London which is exactly like Israel, Gaza, Yemen.....see how your argument is stupid or do I need to go on?

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago

no actually. i don't see how my view that people are all people and the things we do is all in response to the context we grow up in is stupid. so please keep listing places that we have both the potential to improve or to degrade into depending on what actions we take and if we can learn to empathize