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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Every procedure has that risk, even a routine vaccination or stitches, strange reason to pay for glasses and contacts forever.

There are people who legitimately can’t get the surgery, but that’s obviously not who’s being discussed here.

What’s the ratio on people being worse of for vision after? Cant make a claim like that and not provide some data.

Glasses and contacts also don’t fix the issue and can lead to worse vision too, so arguably that’s non-factor in a discussion like this anyways.

LASIK is the only chance to have a permanent fix. It’s a very important factor to consider, above and beyond the complications, that are also applicable to the glasses and contacts. I’ve not heard of many people’s vision getting better by their continual use.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No, what you are comparing to is a one in a million. Lasik has a rather large complication rate with doctors lying about it and using "satisfaction rate" instead of actually counting complications. Basically people think "it's worth it to have these problems". But issues like dry eye, halos, glare, shitty night vision are extremely common. They'll tell you shit like "serious complications are at 1%" when what they mean is 1% go basically blind - or unable to do daily activities like driving at night.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/lasik/lasik-quality-life-collaboration-project

46% of participants who didn't have visual problems before lasik, said they have at least one 3 months after the surgery. 30% had dry eye issues. Those aren't vaccine numbers.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

with doctors lying about it

The last person I spoke with who used those words was trying to convince me she could cure cancer with electricity.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You do need electricity to run the machines.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But that's not special anti-cancer electricity.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, using enough electricity will cure everything. Technically.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Hadn't thought about that. Perhaps I didn't give her enough credit.

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Three months after surgery is too early for such a conclusion. It is expected that you still have dry eyes and stuff like that for a larger period of time, around 6 months or so with daily eye drops. Your vision post surgery is also not 100% improved, and gets better for up to a year after, while your eyes and brain adjust.

Source: my wife had it. Certainly worth it. Your link is not very relevant.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In October 2009, the FDA, the National Eye Institute (NEI), and the Department of Defense (DoD) launched the LASIK Quality of Life Collaboration Project (LQOLCP) to better understand the potential risk of severe problems that can result from LASIK. The project's goal was to develop a tool for determining the percent of patients who develop difficulties performing usual activities following LASIK, and to identify predictors for those patients.

The technology is leaps and bounds better than it was 15 years ago, got anything modern?

And the risk of your eyes getting worse with glasses and contacts is worse than that, your eyes can’t get better without mechanical intervention, and glasses WILL deteriorate your vision further. It’s 100% with glasses and contacts.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

glasses WILL deteriorate your vision further. It’s 100% with glasses and contacts.

Do you have anything to share on this? I am asking because I remember I specifically asked my eye doctor this question, and he said no. (I asked something like if there is any downside in wearing glasses always vs only when needed e.g., reading, watching TV etc.).

I am also wearing the same glasses for almost 13 years now.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Glasses are a tool to help you see, your vision can’t get better on its own, there’s no downside to wearing them all the time, but your doctor clearly didn’t understand the question or you didn’t word it correctly. Your vision will deteriorate more, that’s a fact of life.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I understand that vision will deteriorate. My question was if using glasses can contribute to the deterioration. If glasses are neutral and don't harm, then I don't understand the parent comment.

The way I asked the question was that if using glasses all the time I could - for example - reduce even more certain movements etc. and ultimately cause harm to my vision.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ill fitted or cheap glasses will exacerbate the issue, of course no doctor will say they are part of this group, but perfectly fit glasses have a small chance of not adding to the natural issue, but with how varied everything is. To get perfect glasses and to not lose/damage them to not need replacement is a very small minority.