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[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Biden is bad in this subject. Trump would be massively worse not only here but virtually everywhere else too

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

One supports Fascism at home, the other supports ethno-Fascist Genocide abroad.

The distance between one posture and the other is small and far more easy to transverse than people want to believe, whilst the distance between supporting Fascism at home and not supporting Fascism at all (much less the same type of Fascism as the Nazis, whilst actively commiting Genocide) is pretty much an impassable chasm.

Just because their Theater Of Morality is different doesn't mean Biden and the DNC are significantly less pro-Authoritarianism than Trump and his cronies.

[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Then why the fuck do we not revolutionize and impose a 3rd party? I swear, I have to go down to DC myself to make people realize WE NEED TO GO OUT AND ACT!!! If NO ONE is happy with either party, we should be able to decline either candidate until we can all agree we found a compitent one. God, does anyone know of any revolutionary groups? I know the founding fathers didn't just declare independency and establish governmemt. They actually met up and planned how to knock these rich assholes off their thrones.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one is disagreeing with that.

But using trump to defend supporting a genocide and cutting off aid to its victims will only depress turnout and help trump win.

What would help stop trump is the rest of the party (especially Harris) calling out Biden despite having the same letter by their name

With the added benefit of you know...

Not supporting a genocide and cutting off aid to its victims...

If you use trump to excuse this then how is that different than people excusing Trump's extremely dangerous faults because they think Dems would potentially be worse?

Standards only matter if you hold your own "team" to them, if you don't they're not standards.

It sounds like Biden is saying the right things, as per https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13905011/Biden-call-Israel-PM-Netanyahu-Lebanon-bibi-war-middle-east.html he's demanding that they stop.

And he's paused military aid to Israel in the past, while supporting more humanitarian aid to Gaza.

I'm not sure what more you want.